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Birds of Prey (And the Fantabulous Emancipation of One Harley Quinn) (2/7/2020)

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  1. Colin Jacobson

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    BTW, I think we'll have an interesting test of both comic book fatigue and the "misogynist boys" factor soon.

    "Black Widow" comes out May 1 and "Wonder Woman 1984" follows a month later.

    If those flop, let the arguments begin! :D
     
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    It is getting tiresome. I have seen all the Marvel and DC movies since Iron Man and bought them on Blu. “Meh” is how i’d describe this one. There is constant hand to hand combat that blurs together after a while, and often the “bad” guys don’t even seem to fight back.
     
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    I think audiences might be more selective than they used to be with comic book movies. Also the trailers were terrible for this movie, I was completely apprehensive about it until the good reviews came out.
     
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    I saw it this afternoon. I thought it was fine. Margot Robbie continues to be terrific as Harley Quinn, and Ewan McGregor chewed ALL the scenery.

    Rosie Perez was probably the best live action Renee Montoya yet, but she doesn't have a lot of competition there.

    The Huntress and Black Canary were a bit underdeveloped, and the girl who played Cassandra Cain was kind of flat.

    All of that being said, I appreciated that the movie didn't take itself too seriously, and it moved right along. There were moments, like at the amusement park for the climax, that felt the closest we're probably ever going to get to "Batman: The Animated Series" translated into live action.

    I wouldn't mind more movies in this franchise, but I'm not exactly clamoring for them, either.
     
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    Ha ha - that's for sure! :D

    Normally Ewan's lousy American accent bugs me, but his Roman is such a cartoon that I thought it actually worked for the character.

    Someone compared this to "John Wick", and I agree with that, but it's a Wick film with better character and story development.

    Meaning it has a story, even if the diamond is just a MacGuffin. At least it has some form of narrative! :)
     
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    I said "lesser known characters". The Joker is arguably the most well known villain in comic books and to the general public. Harley Quinn is lesser known because for most people, she's only been in a forgettable movie a couple years ago. Like I said, Marvel is safe for now and the more well known DC characters (Wonder Woman and Batman) are probably good but whoever is doing that Bloodshot movie (based off of a Valiant comic) might need to be worried.
     
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    The trailers were bad and may have kept quite a few on the fence moviegoers away. I went in spite of the trailers and the stupid title.
     
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    I haven’t seen HQ yet but imo the John Wick films are modern action masterpieces with deep characters and story development set in a wonderfully interesting “Wickiverse”. Can’t wait for Chapter 4!
     
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    "Deep characters and story development"??? :blink::blink::blink:
     
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    "Joker" was also an "R"-rated movie that essentially featured none of the other expected characters - and most importantly, no Batman.

    "Prey" didn't click. Like I said, if this happens to a few more movies in a row, then I think you can consider "comic book fatigue".

    "Justice League" was a massive commercial disappointment even though it came on the heels of "Wonder Woman" and featured all DC's big characters - because audiences didn't think it was very good.

    Not every comic book movie will be a hit, Chicken Little! :D
     
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    Absolutely 100%. And I’m talking deep. Sorry it didn’t work for you.
     
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    Yes, a few comic book movies failing in a row is not going to happen because some franchises or characters are just stone cold hits no matter what. Like I keep saying, the ones with lesser known characters are going to start failing because a comic book movie every few months is too much for the market to handle. A movie like Bloodshot probably doesn't need to make $500 million to break even but I think that movie is in trouble and if they think that's going to be the beginning of the "Valiant Cinematic Universe", they're likely dreaming.
     
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    The 1st movie is pretty good. The 2nd is okay. The 3rd is repetitive and weak.

    Wick is the only character who has any kind of development, and that essentially ends after the first.

    None of them have much in terms of plot...
     
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    Disagree 100% with your opinion. All three films have extensive character development and world building. The plots are intricate and always moving the story forward. Amazing to think we’ve seen the same films. But hey....different strokes.

    As to not derail this thread let’s continue this conversation in the John Wick threads
     
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