A few words about…™ Suspiria (1977) — in 4k UHD Blu-ray

4 Stars

These few words are way in advance of the release, but I’ve asked, and am permitted to share them.

I’ve just viewed the new Suspiria 4k via a Samsung 128gb thumb drive, which is slightly smaller than a flea.

But it’s all on there.

Inclusive of HDR 10 and Dolby Atmos.

Compared to the Synapse Blu-ray, the colors pop even more, black levels are rich and pure, with gorgeous highlights.

The track is properly huge, and now even more so with Dolby Atmos.

A magnificent restoration of a beloved film.

I’m going to bet that 19 Nov can’t arrive quickly enough for fans.

And one more reason to make the move to 4k!

Image – 5 (HDR 10)

Audio – 5 (Dolby Atmos)

Pass / Fail – Pass

Upgrade from Blu-ray – A necessity!

Very Highly Recommended

RAH

Published by

Robert Harris

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34 Comments

  1. Since I live in Norway, I had to purchase the previous Synapse blu ray via DiabolikDVD for a whopping $74.37, including shipping, + an extra $25 in customs and import charges. The new 4K UHD disc will cost me $51.53 ++. I commend Synapse for delving into 4K territory, but if they start doing like Lionsgate and release 4K discs a couple of years after I've purchased the blu-rays, then I won't be double-dipping, thank you very much.

  2. titch

    Since I live in Norway, I had to purchase the previous Synapse blu ray via DiabolikDVD for a whopping $74.37, including shipping, + an extra $25 in customs and import charges. The new 4K UHD disc will cost me $51.53 ++. I commend Synapse for delving into 4K territory, but if they start doing like Lionsgate and release 4K discs a couple of years after I've purchased the blu-rays, then I won't be double-dipping, thank you very much.

    For whatever it's worth, I can tell you that Synapse was not in a position to release the film in 4k, day and date with the Blu-ray. They're a small boutique firm, and spent nearly a year getting the Blu-ray prepared properly.

    They go for perfection, and a 4k was not in the cards at that time.

    This is not double dipping.

  3. I know it can cost more importing certain titles, but this for sure is NOT a normal releasing of a 4K disc after a couple years after the BLU.

    Synapse put so much work and effort into their restoration. The work they did on the original 4.0 audio mix alone was massive!

    They are doing the release correct, even splurging on a Dolby Atmos mix that is icing on the cake.

    Many aren’t fans of Atmos upgrades but the fact we also get original audio mixes everyone wins! It is truly how all major studios should release their films on 4K. Sony is one of the few that are great about it.

    Only wish Warner Bros would include original Stereo audio tracks and HD Mono tracks (varying on the release of each title and original audio format)

    Synapse deserve to sell as many copies of this 4K disc as possible.

  4. Dang it, Robert. I was going to pass on this, but you've yet to steer me wrong with your thoughts on particular releases. Looks like I'm going to have to start selling some plasma so I can order it. At least there are free cookies involved with that. 😉

  5. According to all the sales chat at the time of the blu-ray release, the Synapse/Tovoli transfer was representative of the original theatrical presentation.

    But wait…according to Don, "We went back to the original 4K files and basically started over, reconfiguring the theatrical DCI-P3 color space for UHD’s expanded color palette and utilized high dynamic range".

    So…is this release the "goes up to eleven" version of the theatrical presentation…? Theatrical+

    Also, couldn't help but notice that, right before this week's announcement, one very vocal player in the 2017 Synapse This Is The Absolute Definitive Version of Suspiria Forever™ game removed himself from Facebook.

  6. Brian Kidd

    Dang it, Robert. I was going to pass on this, but you've yet to steer me wrong with your thoughts on particular releases. Looks like I'm going to have to start selling some plasma so I can order it. At least there are free cookies involved with that. 😉

    Yeah, I bit on this too and ordered it through DVD Diabolik. My Synapse BD is up for sale. I'm a big fan of Argento's work, and this may be the only film of his that gets released in 4K, so I decided to splurge.

  7. As a film purist why do we need a revisionist Atmos for Suspiria? And if another technology later comes out do we then rush out get to buy another sonically changed version and trash this? Temember when DTS considered the end all?
    This reminds me of the Dolbyized Vertigo which I can’t stand but at least there you got the original tracks included but when it’s screened it only show up with Dolby. Which brings me to wonder does Vertigo Atmos come next?

  8. noel aguirre

    As a film purist why do we need a revisionist Atmos for Suspiria? And if another technology later comes out do we then rush out get to buy another sonically changed version and trash this? Temember when DTS considered the end all?
    This reminds me of the Dolbyized Vertigo which I can’t stand but at least there you got the original tracks included but when it’s screened it only show up with Dolby. Which brings me to wonder does Vertigo Atmos come next?

    I mean, we don't need it. In the case of Suspiria, especially, the original surround track is legendarily good. With that said, the original track isn't going anywhere and a well-done Atmos track, which I'm certain this one will be given the care put into the restoration and Blu-ray release, can certainly enhance the experience for those who enjoy the option. Not every film can benefit from an Atmos remix, but Suspiria is one where robust surround sound is an integral part of the film.

  9. warnerbro

    Why is it so expensive — 60 bucks.

    1. Small label;
    2. Small print run;
    3. Licencing fees, both to the rights owner, UHD Alliance and Dolby

    These things add up, folks. The smaller the print run, the higher price per disc.

  10. This is the future of physical media. Smaller qualities at higher prices. The masses aren’t subsidizing the hobbyists anymore, so if you want something on a disc vs on a stream as part of a subscription, it’s going to cost more. If people pay the higher prices, then physical media will survive as a niche format. If people reject the higher prices, it’s more likely that physical releases will simply cease rather than coming down in price.

  11. Josh Steinberg

    This is the future of physical media. Smaller quantities at higher prices. The masses aren’t subsidizing the hobbyists anymore, so if you want something on a disc vs on a stream as part of a subscription, it’s going to cost more. If people pay the higher prices, then physical media will survive as a niche format. If people reject the higher prices, it’s more likely that physical releases will simply cease rather than coming down in price.

    It reminds me of the days of Laserdisc. It was very much a niche format in the U.S., so prices were much higher than if you bought the same film on VHS. On the one hand, the best Laserdisc releases had supplements and, often, extra books, CD's, lithographs, etc. that made them feel special. On the other hand, unless you had disposable income, Laserdisc purchases were reserved for special occasions. As expensive as this release seems, it's still less than what you would have paid for a comparable release on Laserdisc and also has image and sound quality that could have only been dreamt of back in the 80's-90's. While I miss the heyday of cheap DVD and Blu-ray releases, I've resigned myself to the reality of the marketplace that can no longer count on massive sales of physical media. Those of us who prefer physical media are dinosaurs. I'm just glad that we're still able to get great physical releases of niche films like Suspiria and freaking Criterion releases of John Waters films.

  12. Josh Steinberg

    This is the future of physical media. Smaller qualities at higher prices. The masses aren’t subsidizing the hobbyists anymore, so if you want something on a disc vs on a stream as part of a subscription, it’s going to cost more. If people pay the higher prices, then physical media will survive as a niche format. If people reject the higher prices, it’s more likely that physical releases will simply cease rather than coming down in price.

    Problem I have with all of this:
    Boutique labels are fantastic, and I buy tons of deep catalog releases.
    Niche doesn't translate to big studios very well. Will Disney ever
    License out a movie like Edward Scissorhands? Not a chance. A beautiful 4K transfer that will most likely never get another physical release. And just think what kind of features a boutique label would give it. Loaded no doubt. This in the niche collector world of physical media is what makes me sad.

  13. Brian Kidd

    It reminds me of the days of Laserdisc… I'm just glad that we're still able to get great physical releases of niche films like Suspiria and freaking Criterion releases of John Waters films.

    Just connecting your two thoughts here…

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  14. You've talked me into it – supporting boutique labels is a worthy cause! Amazon has reduced the price down to $36, which is a big discount. I've previously forked out for both the Synapse blu ray and the Italian 4K disc (which didn't look nearly as good). I project 4K discs and have turned off the HDR, so to my eyes there isn't a huge difference between an uprezzed 4K disc and a nicely mastered blu ray.

  15. titch

    You've talked me into it – supporting boutique labels is a worthy cause! Amazon has reduced the price down to $36, which is a big discount. I've previously forked out for both the Synapse blu ray and the Italian 4K disc (which didn't look nearly as good). I project 4K discs and have turned off the HDR, so to my eyes there isn't a huge difference between an uprezzed 4K disc and a nicely mastered blu ray.

    Except this one isn't uprezzed. They did the restoration at 4K, so you're getting the full info that they pulled from the film elements. While it won't be a dramatic increase in detail given the limitations of the original elements, it still should show some improvement over the Blu-ray. In your case, since you can't use the HDR with your projector, I can see how you would be on the fence. I was on the fence, too, simply because of the initial price. I can't turn it down at the current price, though.

  16. Paul Watters

    According to all the sales chat at the time of the blu-ray release, the Synapse/Tovoli transfer was representative of the original theatrical presentation.

    But wait…according to Don, "We went back to the original 4K files and basically started over, reconfiguring the theatrical DCI-P3 color space for UHD’s expanded color palette and utilized high dynamic range".

    So…is this release the "goes up to eleven" version of the theatrical presentation…? Theatrical+

    Also, couldn't help but notice that, right before this week's announcement, one very vocal player in the 2017 Synapse This Is The Absolute Definitive Version of Suspiria Forever™ game removed himself from Facebook.

    Oh wow. Conspiracy theory much?

    The fact is, I frequently take sabaricals from Facebook. I had no idea this announcement was eminent when I decided to take the break from Facebook that I am right now.

    Also re: your "absolute definitive version" quip- the Synapse Blu-ray of SUSPIRIA is the absolute definitive version within the constraints of the Blu-ray format (1080P resolution, SDR, 4:2:0 8-bit color, rec709 color space). The 4K theatrical DCP was better (4K resolution, P3 color space), and this UHD will be better than the Blu-ray as well. None of this negates how great that Blu-ray was (is), and in confines of the Blu-ray format, it's the best possible version of SUSPIRIA.

    Vincent

  17. noel aguirre

    As a film purist why do we need a revisionist Atmos for Suspiria? And if another technology later comes out do we then rush out get to buy another sonically changed version and trash this? Temember when DTS considered the end all?
    This reminds me of the Dolbyized Vertigo which I can’t stand but at least there you got the original tracks included but when it’s screened it only show up with Dolby. Which brings me to wonder does Vertigo Atmos come next?

    This release will also include the original 4.0 theatrical sound mix from 1977, lovingly restored and remastered in 96 kHz/24-bit high-resolurion audio from original 35mm magnetic sound stems, as well as the Atmos remix.

    Vincent

  18. Vincent_P

    Oh wow. Conspiracy theory much?

    The fact is, I frequently take sabaticals from Facebook. I had no idea this announcement was eminent when I decided to take the break from Facebook that I am right now.

    Paranoid much, Mr Pereira? I don't recall saying at any point that it was you. I was also unaware that you had also dropped off Facebook at the present time…

    But thank you for the comments regarding the transfer.

  19. I own the Italian 4K (no hdr) restoration and although the color-timing is interesting, albeit completely wrong, I like watching it occasionally. Projecting the Synapse blu though, makes me giddy like a little kid. The several years long Synapse restoration finally brought the correct colors to Suspiria, allowing all to witness Argentos absolute mastery of colors. It would be quite the understatement to say I'm on pins and needles for the arrival of this new uhd. I am hoping the original 4.0 theatrical audio is included, as is, as an option. I have no problem with a new Atmos track, just as long as the original is included as well. Knowing Synapses dedication to this title, I would imagine it will be included.

  20. Brian9229

    I own the Italian 4K (no hdr) restoration and although the color-timing is interesting, albeit completely wrong, I like watching it occasionally. Projecting the Synapse blu though, makes me giddy like a little kid. The several years long Synapse restoration finally brought the correct colors to Suspiria, allowing all to witness Argentos absolute mastery of colors. It would be quite the understatement to say I'm on pins and needles for the arrival of this new uhd. I am hoping the original 4.0 theatrical audio is included, as is, as an option. I have no problem with a new Atmos track, just as long as the original is included as well. Knowing Synapses dedication to this title, I would imagine it will be included.

    The 4.0 is on the disc. Synapse stated that when the 4K release was announced and it's mentioned at least twice on their page for it on their site. All is well. 🙂 It's one of my all-time favorite multichannel mixes.

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