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#1 of 61 Matt MacFarlane

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Posted October 30 2002 - 07:23 AM

I just saw the Shining for the first time, and maybe I missed something or I'm just stupid, but I didn't understand the end with the closeup of the picture with Jack in it from 1921 or something. Please explain.
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#2 of 61 Lou Sytsma

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Posted October 30 2002 - 07:33 AM

Jack became the latest addition to hotel - or spirit of the hotel if you wish.
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#3 of 61 Matt MacFarlane

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Posted October 30 2002 - 07:34 AM

That makes sense, thanks a lot.
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#4 of 61 Jack Briggs

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Posted October 30 2002 - 07:43 AM

Now, how did you manage to, um, "Overlook" that? Posted Image

#5 of 61 Matt MacFarlane

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Posted October 30 2002 - 07:45 AM

I guess I must have dozed off or something.
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Posted October 30 2002 - 07:49 AM

Matt, I was posting in order to make a pun!

#7 of 61 Matt MacFarlane

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Posted October 30 2002 - 07:51 AM

I read the post quickly. Now I see it.Posted Image
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Posted October 30 2002 - 07:52 AM

Jack, in the immortal words of Splinter:
"Ha, ha ha. I just made a funny!"

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Posted October 30 2002 - 07:55 AM

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Damn! Wish I had thought of that one!Posted Image Posted Image
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Posted October 30 2002 - 08:00 AM

Not one of Matt's shining moments.
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Posted October 30 2002 - 08:07 AM

Hey, let's not rip on matt. The first time I saw the Shining I was in a state of mental retardation and complete neural paralysis after the back-to-back scary twins/necrophilia scenes, and by the end of the movie I had no clue what the hell was going on. But then again, I was three years oldPosted Image

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Posted October 30 2002 - 08:44 AM

"Mr. Torrance, you are the caretaker... you've always been the caretaker.."

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Posted October 30 2002 - 09:18 AM

Necrophilia? I've seen The Shining many times and I don't recall any instances of necrophilia....

#14 of 61 Matt MacFarlane

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Posted October 30 2002 - 09:22 AM

That I did see. When Jack went into rm 237 there was the young, attractive woman in the tub. They started kissing and she turned into some really old woman with sores all over her body. It was gross.
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Posted October 30 2002 - 09:47 AM

Was there anybody that didnt like the movie? I just watched this with my wife for the first time the other day,And since she had recently finished reading the book she was TOTALY let down with the movie.I mean wow she felt really jipped Posted Image As for me,well,to be honest it put me to sleep.:b Gotta admit though,Im not fond of Kubrick anywayPosted Image So was anyone else who read the book as dissapointed as my wife?Just curious.

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Posted October 30 2002 - 10:51 AM

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So was anyone else who read the book as dissapointed as my wife?
Yes... the first time I saw the movie I had just finished the book. The movie is a terrible, horrible, wretched, awful adaptation of the book. Since then I have grown to appreciate the movie on its own merits (cinematography, direction, acting, and especially the way Kubrick weaves non-original music into the movie as if it were written for it).

However, the movie bears little resemblance (character names, settings, very basic plot points) to the book. The Overlook is the main character of the book. The hotel has a life and prescence of its own. The movie downplays and nearly eliminates the character of the hotel. The movie is mostly just Jack going crazy.

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That being the case, you will probably never appreciate the movie. It is Kubrick through and through.
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Posted October 30 2002 - 11:34 AM

I have to separate the book from the movie in my head to appreciate the movie. I loved the book, and completely hated the film the first time I saw it, and I understand why Stephen King despised it.

I still don't love the film, but I don't hate it anymore. It's probably my least-favourite Kubrick, along with Lolita, which also suffers in comparison to the book (but has a number of great moments).

Of course, there are a few of his that I still haven't seen...

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Posted October 30 2002 - 11:53 AM

I enjoyed The Shining, book and film, they can both co-exist methinks, I know Stephen King wasn't too happy with Kubrick's movie and had a fit when Jack Nicholson got the part of Jack Torrance, King said something to the effect that Torrance was supposed to go slowly mad/possessed as the film progresses but that Nicholson was already clearly nuts to begin with.Posted Image

That said in my opinion Kubrick's The Shining is prob the last great horror film ever, before hundreds of teen horror flicks took over in the 80's, 90's and 00's.

Curiously the plotline has close similarities to 'The Amityville Horror', anyone notice this?

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#19 of 61 Jack Briggs

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Posted October 30 2002 - 03:40 PM

It is Kubrick through and through.


Which is invariably the case in regard to a film whose director happens to be Stanley Kubrick.

A note about the artistic concept of adaptation. One person's work serves no more than to be the artistic inspiration for another person's work. Such is the very serious case here. Never expect a Stanley Kubrick film to be anything less.

The book? I struggled through it way back in 1978. The film? I cannot tell you how many times I've seen it.

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Posted October 30 2002 - 04:24 PM

I saw THE SHINING the first day it open oh so many years ago and walked out of the theater hating the movie. The book has been a favorite and read many times. Over the years, I learned to love the film (although I still hate Danny's 'talking finger!') and watch it often on DVD. BTW, when I finally got my own wife to read THE SHINING, she couldn't put it down and is still suffering from 'Anti-Kubrick's The Shining' Syndrome.
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