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#1 of 38 OFFLINE   erew99

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Posted March 11 2014 - 06:46 AM

I'm wondering which would be the better way to go.  Room size is 19x10x10.

 

Most of the time TV/Movies are on.  The rest is music... figure around 25%.

 

Any reason one is better than the other?  I see one is sealed, one is ported. 

 

 

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Posted March 11 2014 - 07:01 AM

I have an SVS subwoofer, it's ported, if i had the choice i would go with the ported design, this article should help you decide.

 

http://www.audioholi...-svs-sb-pb-2000


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#3 of 38 OFFLINE   erew99

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Posted March 11 2014 - 07:09 AM

Well it seems the ported version will give you higher volume/output, and the cost of it being much larger.

 

Right now I have a Polk PSW505, which is loud enough for me.  The volume knob is at the 1/2 point, receiver is set at -5 (IIRC).

 

I don't know which is the right sub for me.  I'm sure either sub is a giant leap in quality.



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Posted March 11 2014 - 07:11 AM

Well it seems the ported version will give you higher volume/output, and the cost of it being much larger.

 

Right now I have a Polk PSW505, which is loud enough for me.  The volume knob is at the 1/2 point, receiver is set at -5 (IIRC).

 

I don't know which is the right sub for me.  I'm sure either sub is a giant leap in quality.

 

Its the frequency extension not just loudness, the ported will go lower with less distortion and is better suited for movies and your room.  I think HSU might also do some at the price you are looking at.


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Posted March 11 2014 - 07:51 AM

Since music is a lower priority, I'd agree that the vented one would likely be a better choice.  Sealed subs will still hit the lows, just not with the same authority of a low tuned vented sub.  Since I listen to a lot of music, I tend to prefer sealed, but I've owned plenty of vented subs as well.  HSU's VTF (variable tuning frequency) offerings allow you the ability to configure the sub for a "cleaner" sound with more output or more extension for movie listening.


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Posted March 11 2014 - 08:04 AM

Which HSU VTF would compare to the PB2000?  The VT-3 or VT-2?



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Posted March 11 2014 - 08:12 AM

Any thoughts on the PB1000?  The reason I ask is it's dimensions.  Smaller, fits under my table in the corner.  Since the room is only 10' wide, I need to conserve space as well.



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Posted March 11 2014 - 08:31 AM

Any thoughts on the PB1000?  The reason I ask is it's dimensions.  Smaller, fits under my table in the corner.  Since the room is only 10' wide, I need to conserve space as well.

 

The table in the corner may not be the best place for your subwoofer, i recommend an SPL meter and some tones to find out if you have room modes that may cause issues in that spot, always best to get the optimum position for your subwoofer.


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Posted March 11 2014 - 08:34 AM

If your room is rectangular, your best sub spot may end up being 1/3 the way up the right or left wall.



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Posted March 11 2014 - 09:01 AM

I've done this test in the past.  I felt it sounded best in the corner.  I tried 4 different places and ended up in that particular corner.

 

I've used an SPL meter, but find it difficult to use for the subwoofer.  C-weighted/Slow.

 

Will the PB1000 put the PSW505 to shame!? :)



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Posted March 11 2014 - 09:04 AM

Anything(at the same price) puts the PSW505 to shame.

 

The PSW505 doesn't even outperform the BIC F12(of course the BIC F12 is a HSU design. BIC does not hide the fact they went to HSU for the design).



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Posted March 11 2014 - 09:26 AM

I've done this test in the past.  I felt it sounded best in the corner.  I tried 4 different places and ended up in that particular corner.

 

I've used an SPL meter, but find it difficult to use for the subwoofer.  C-weighted/Slow.

 

Will the PB1000 put the PSW505 to shame!? :)

 

It may be different for a different sub, but the corner is a fine starting point.  The PB2000 could replace your table... :)   The PB1000 won't fill a large room, but if space is a concern and the room isn't too big the PB1000 is a good option.

 

From HSU, the VTF-3 would be a closer competitor to the PB2000, but the VTF-3 is for large rooms and I think the PB2000 will likely be as well.


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Posted March 11 2014 - 10:20 AM

When you say 'large' room, what do you mean?  What is considered a large room?



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Posted March 11 2014 - 10:22 AM

http://www.thx.com/c...nce-categories/ (one take on the subject)



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Posted March 11 2014 - 10:25 AM

Personally if i was you i'd get the biggest possible ( quality ) subwoofer you can.


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Posted March 11 2014 - 11:23 AM

I'll take some measurements later.  Considering my room is 20x10x10 I'll try to see what HSU and SVS offer.

 

Are there any other subs you would recommend for $500-$800?



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Posted March 11 2014 - 11:43 AM

You can have not enough, but there's pretty much no such thing as too much sub for a room.

 

Size might be up there:

 

http://www.powersoun...m/products/xs15  (sealed but 15" driver will get you better output)

 

Also an HSU design:

 

http://outlawaudio.c...ucts/lfmEX.html or the Plus (smaller amp) is on sale right now for $499: https://www.outlawau...art/bstock.html

 

Sealed servo

 

http://rythmikaudio.com/F12.html


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Posted March 12 2014 - 06:02 AM

SVS PB2000 looks like my best bet.  They have outlet specials for $729.99 right now.



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Posted March 13 2014 - 10:18 AM

Thanks for all the great advice.  I spoke with SVS customer service.  They are suggesting the PB-1000 for my room size.



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Posted March 13 2014 - 10:30 AM

Thanks for all the great advice.  I spoke with SVS customer service.  They are suggesting the PB-1000 for my room size.

 

Unless you can buy two of them i'd ignore their great advice and go for the PB-2000.


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