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#321 of 339 OFFLINE   Patrick Sun

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Posted June 15 2012 - 08:10 AM

At some point I expect Don to tell Peggy. "You've come a long way, Peggy."

Only if she offered Don a theater bonus (like she did to another guy in a previous episode). :D
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#322 of 339 OFFLINE   John DeAngelis

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Posted June 18 2012 - 02:55 AM

Does anybody have any idea when Season 5 will be released on DVD?

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Posted June 18 2012 - 04:19 AM

^ It's tough to guess because Lion's Gate (who distributes the DVDs and Blu-rays) seems to put out the sets whenever they choose and doesn't seem to care about cross promoting it with the airing of a new season. I'd say that it might come out in time for holiday shopping but that's nothing more than a guess.

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Posted June 18 2012 - 04:24 AM

I was wondering, too, because now that the AMC presentation is so !#@$& low rent with regard to the commercial interruptions, etc., this will actually be the first season I watch straight through on BLU.  I have the rest on BLU, but man, I need to see this one, properly, as soon as possible, to get that lousy AMC taste out of my mouth.



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Posted June 18 2012 - 04:32 AM

Seriously, I was hyper-aware of being distracted throughout the season by the execrable presentation.


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Posted June 18 2012 - 04:35 AM

^ What was objectionable about this season from the other years? There's always been commercials, there's always been the AMC logo, there's always been editing of the word 'fuck', etc. Not that I like any of those things but they're par for the course when it comes to TV.

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Posted June 18 2012 - 05:06 AM

Originally Posted by TravisR 

^ What was objectionable about this season from the other years? There's always been commercials, there's always been the AMC logo, there's always been editing of the word 'fuck', etc. Not that I like any of those things but they're par for the course when it comes to TV.


Ditto.  If it comes down to commercials and a logo versus waiting 6 months to see the season, I'll deal with the commercials and logo.



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Posted June 18 2012 - 05:11 AM

I'm not waiting to see it.  I watched "live", faithfully, every Sunday night.  All I'm saying is that there has been a marked, noticeable deterioration in AMC's respect for quality in presentation, from the first to the fifth season.



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Posted June 18 2012 - 06:01 AM

I'm fine with watching Mad Men on AMC, but when the DVDs come out I enjoy re-watching and listening to all the commentaries that they include.

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Posted June 19 2012 - 05:38 AM

I remember hearing that earlier seasons featured old-fashioned commercials. Is that true? I watched seasons 1-4 on disc and didn't notice anything like that on season 5.
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Posted June 19 2012 - 07:06 AM

Feel free to correct whatever I'm remembering inaccurately here:


Season One had only 2 (or was it 3?) commercial interruptions, and they were very tasteful -- (it was almost like PBS!).  I believe the only sponsor then was BMW, and the ads seemed tailored to the show.  There were also some little "bumpers" that referenced old-fashioned commercials to the show in some way.  I wonder if that's what you're thinking of.


AMC only broadcast the first season in standard def, but those of us who had an HD On Demand channel could watch it in HD the next night, an added bonus being that those OD episodes played straight through with no commercial interruptions.


The commercials that deliberately and wittily simulated Mad Men situations came along in the next season or two, but I don't remember who that sponsor was (!).

Starting with either Season Two or Three, the On Demand viewers stopped getting a break and the commercials were included.


Can't say when every little change happened, but the increase in commercials was really noticeable by Four, and the whole presentation was totally F'ing ridiculous in Five -- not only with commercial interruptions that forced me to use my MUTE button, or be driven insane, but in the implementation of tiny fast-scrolling end credits with the little "preview" of the next episode playing in one quadrant.



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Posted June 20 2012 - 03:42 AM

You said it! In fact, I believe the On Demand broadcasts of the current week's episode this past season were expanded to 64 minutes in order to squeeze in TONS of commercials. Really annoying.
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Posted June 20 2012 - 04:25 AM

Season One had only 2 (or was it 3?) commercial interruptions, and they were very tasteful -- (it was almost like PBS!).

I've got no way to back it up but I don't remember the show ever running under an hour (which would have happened if there was only 2 commercial breaks).

You said it! In fact, I believe the On Demand broadcasts of the current week's episode this past season were expanded to 64 minutes in order to squeeze in TONS of commercials. Really annoying.

The show runs 64 minutes when it's on AMC (as a way to earn more ad revenue so they could pay Weiner and maintain the show's budget) so On Demand mirrors that.

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Posted June 20 2012 - 06:22 AM

The amount of commercials was one of the hang-ups with Matthew Weiner's contract renewal. AMC wanted to cut the running time of each episode to pack in more commercials, and Weiner didn't. Until last September, the plan for season five was to air 45 minute versions of the episodes and have 47 minute versions for steaming. So maximizing revenue is definitely a top priority for AMC now.

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Posted June 22 2012 - 07:50 AM

The show runs 64 minutes when it's on AMC (as a way to earn more ad revenue so they could pay Weiner and maintain the show's budget) so On Demand mirrors that.

Ah, interesting. The current week's episode was always listed as 64 minutes, but previous week's episodes were shorter. I forget the exact length, but it was somewhere in the mid 50s.
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Posted June 22 2012 - 08:03 AM

Ah, interesting. The current week's episode was always listed as 64 minutes, but previous week's episodes were shorter. I forget the exact length, but it was somewhere in the mid 50s.

I think the first week of On Demand, they keep the same amount of commercials as the original airing but after that first week, they drop the number of commercials. I didn't watch any episodes On Demand this year but since the show sans commercials runs about 47 minutes, I'd guess that the '50 minute episodes' probably just have one commercial during each break.

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Posted June 26 2012 - 01:35 PM

I think the first week of On Demand, they keep the same amount of commercials as the original airing but after that first week, they drop the number of commercials.

That is the way with some shows these days On Demand. I think a few USA Network shows follow the same pattern - Psych I know for certain and I may have noticed a few others. I think with Psych they are not only the same amount of commercials, but they might even be the same commercials (at least the national ones).

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Posted July 17 2012 - 01:59 PM

That is the way with some shows these days On Demand. I think a few USA Network shows follow the same pattern - Psych I know for certain and I may have noticed a few others. I think with Psych they are not only the same amount of commercials, but they might even be the same commercials (at least the national ones).

This why I hope DVD/BR stay around for a long time. 1, I like owning the disc so I can play it anywhere, anytime, any machine without some special setup or tweaking the hardware. 2, I don't want my entire Movie/TV collection sitting on my hard drive, regardless of backup strategies, I want a physical disc I own. 3, So far, other than a few companies with obnoxious previews you can't forward through, DVD/BR is a clean, uncut, no-logo, no commercial format in OAR. If they start cramming the advertising, logo, edited versions down our throats, I will sadly, but simply stop buying.
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Posted July 26 2014 - 10:10 AM

Good interview with the show's longtime cinematographer Chris Manley from back when he got his Emmy nomination on season 5

I don't watch the show, but it's a nice detailed exploration of what goes into framing shots and choosing lighting, as well as the show's transition from film to digital.




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