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#1 of 14 OFFLINE   Steven Simon

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Posted June 28 2006 - 07:16 AM

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I had Crash in 1080i on my HD Tivo... Did an A/B test of that and the new BD... The Blue Ray was a much sharper image... The DirecTv source looked soft in comparison....
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#2 of 14 OFFLINE   Paul Hillenbrand

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Posted June 28 2006 - 07:20 AM

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#3 of 14 OFFLINE   Ricardo C

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Posted June 28 2006 - 07:25 AM

Good to hear Posted Image:tu

Slowly but surely, I'm hearing increasingly good things about BD, after the first lacklustre reviews. I hope the trend continues, because I do want to jump in.
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#4 of 14 OFFLINE   Neil Joseph

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Posted June 28 2006 - 07:55 AM

[speculation on]One wonders what the reasons were for some of the title delays but perhaps the quality was an issue and they are being redone???? [speculation off] This is encouraging to hear indeed. Question about your audio hookup, what are you using?
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#5 of 14 OFFLINE   Steven Simon

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Posted June 28 2006 - 01:50 PM

Neil,

Using Optical... So straight DD 5.1.....
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#6 of 14 OFFLINE   Roger Mathus

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Posted June 28 2006 - 02:50 PM

CRASH indeed looks and sounds good on my system from the Blu-ray disc.

#7 of 14 OFFLINE   Neil Joseph

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Posted June 28 2006 - 03:34 PM

Steven, do you have the option to use the analog 6 channel connection? If so, can you try that and get the pcm5.1?
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#8 of 14 OFFLINE   Roger Mathus

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Posted June 28 2006 - 03:50 PM

CRASH does not have PCM 5.1. It has DTS and DD. Only the Sony discs have PCM 5.1 uncompressed

#9 of 14 OFFLINE   Rakesh.S

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Posted June 29 2006 - 05:13 AM

I don't think Directv is a valid comparison. All their HD channels are downrezzed and bitstarved. HD-Lite shouldn't be used as a comparison to BluRay or HDDVD. I'd suggest looking at an uncompressed cable source like Comcast or Dishnetwork(they don't compress their national channels, only the Voom channels).

#10 of 14 OFFLINE   CRyan

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Posted June 29 2006 - 10:03 AM

I dont know about all markets, but Comcast here compresses the Hell out of everything - including HD premiums. You get macroblocking on fast sequences fairly consistently with them.

#11 of 14 OFFLINE   Rakesh.S

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Posted June 30 2006 - 08:24 AM

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I dont know about all markets, but Comcast here compresses the Hell out of everything - including HD premiums. You get macroblocking on fast sequences fairly consistently with them.

I think Comcast's company policy is that they pass the channels uncompressed -- obviously they remodulate them but the pq should be identical/close to what's coming from the source.

The fast panning and macroblocking you're talking about is common. Sometimes the source itself is macroblocked.

Check for posts by Ken H on avsforum in the hdtv programming forum. He has contacts within Comcast, who have said they leave the channels uncompressed.

#12 of 14 OFFLINE   Michel_Hafner

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Posted July 01 2006 - 04:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Rakesh.S
I think Comcast's company policy is that they pass the channels uncompressed -- obviously they remodulate them but the pq should be identical/close to what's coming from the source.

The fast panning and macroblocking you're talking about is common. Sometimes the source itself is macroblocked.

Check for posts by Ken H on avsforum in the hdtv programming forum. He has contacts within Comcast, who have said they leave the channels uncompressed.

That can only mean no compression beyond channel capacity and that is still very compressed compared to a studio master tape. Normal consumer HD is limited to ~18 Mbit/s. There are special versions with 45 Mbit/s or so that very few people have (C-Band). This is pretty transparent to the studio master but still compressed by at least a factor of 6 compared to the master (which is itself often compressed).

#13 of 14 OFFLINE   Dave Mack

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Posted July 01 2006 - 04:36 AM

Our comcast in Berkeley looks FAB for hd.

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#14 of 14 OFFLINE   Robert Crawford

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Posted July 01 2006 - 01:17 PM

I'm going to watch this disc next, probably tomorrow morning because I like the film and for other reasons already stated.





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