First Look: Crash BlueRay

Discussion in 'Blu-ray and UHD' started by Steven Simon, Jun 28, 2006.

  1. Steven Simon

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    Guys,

    I had Crash in 1080i on my HD Tivo... Did an A/B test of that and the new BD... The Blue Ray was a much sharper image... The DirecTv source looked soft in comparison....
     
  2. Paul Hillenbrand

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  3. Ricardo C

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    Good to hear [​IMG]:tu

    Slowly but surely, I'm hearing increasingly good things about BD, after the first lacklustre reviews. I hope the trend continues, because I do want to jump in.
     
  4. Neil Joseph

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    [speculation on]One wonders what the reasons were for some of the title delays but perhaps the quality was an issue and they are being redone???? [speculation off] This is encouraging to hear indeed. Question about your audio hookup, what are you using?
     
  5. Steven Simon

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    Neil,

    Using Optical... So straight DD 5.1.....
     
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    CRASH indeed looks and sounds good on my system from the Blu-ray disc.
     
  7. Neil Joseph

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    Steven, do you have the option to use the analog 6 channel connection? If so, can you try that and get the pcm5.1?
     
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    CRASH does not have PCM 5.1. It has DTS and DD. Only the Sony discs have PCM 5.1 uncompressed
     
  9. Rakesh.S

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    I don't think Directv is a valid comparison. All their HD channels are downrezzed and bitstarved. HD-Lite shouldn't be used as a comparison to BluRay or HDDVD. I'd suggest looking at an uncompressed cable source like Comcast or Dishnetwork(they don't compress their national channels, only the Voom channels).
     
  10. CRyan

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    I dont know about all markets, but Comcast here compresses the Hell out of everything - including HD premiums. You get macroblocking on fast sequences fairly consistently with them.
     
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    I think Comcast's company policy is that they pass the channels uncompressed -- obviously they remodulate them but the pq should be identical/close to what's coming from the source.

    The fast panning and macroblocking you're talking about is common. Sometimes the source itself is macroblocked.

    Check for posts by Ken H on avsforum in the hdtv programming forum. He has contacts within Comcast, who have said they leave the channels uncompressed.
     
  12. Michel_Hafner

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    That can only mean no compression beyond channel capacity and that is still very compressed compared to a studio master tape. Normal consumer HD is limited to ~18 Mbit/s. There are special versions with 45 Mbit/s or so that very few people have (C-Band). This is pretty transparent to the studio master but still compressed by at least a factor of 6 compared to the master (which is itself often compressed).
     
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    Our comcast in Berkeley looks FAB for hd.

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    I'm going to watch this disc next, probably tomorrow morning because I like the film and for other reasons already stated.





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