-

Jump to content



Sign up for a free account!

Signing up for an account is fast and free. As a member you can join in the conversation, enter contests and you won't get the popup ads that guests get. Click here to create your free account.

Photo
- - - - -

Axiom or Cambridge???


This topic has been archived. This means that you cannot reply to this topic.
23 replies to this topic

#1 of 24 Tom Collins

Tom Collins

    Extra

  • 15 posts
  • Join Date: Jan 22 2004

Posted January 31 2004 - 06:26 AM

Just want some opinions from the guys who know. Which of these two systems would be the best bang for the buck??? Using a Pioneer Elite VSX-45tx. 22'x18'x8' room, 20% music, 80% movies.

CSW: Classic Series Tower, MC500, S300

AXIOM: M60ti, VP150, QS8

SVS 20-39 pci

#2 of 24 Luitz

Luitz

    Stunt Coordinator

  • 139 posts
  • Join Date: Jan 04 2004

Posted January 31 2004 - 06:33 AM

MY opinion is go listen to some speakers in some dealers.
Forget CSW completely.
Axiom is defenitly OK as is 100s of others speakers out there.
SVS sub Buy it now.... This will be u with it>>>Posted Image

#3 of 24 John Garcia

John Garcia

    Executive Producer

  • 11,532 posts
  • Join Date: Jun 24 1999
  • Real Name:John
  • LocationNorCal

Posted January 31 2004 - 06:41 AM

Axiom.
HT: Emotiva UMC-200, Emotiva XPA-3, Carnegie Acoustics CSB-1s + CSC-1, GR Research A/V-1s, Epik Empire, Oppo BDP-105, PS4, PS3,URC R-50, APC-H10, Panamax 5100 Bluejeans Cable
System Two: Marantz PM7200, Pioneer FS52s, Panasonic BD79
(stolen) : Marantz SR-8300, GR Research A/V-2s, Sony SCD-222ES SACD, Panasonic BD-65, PS3 60G (250G)

Everybody is a genius, but if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it’ll spend its whole life believing that it is stupid.” – Albert Einstein

 


#4 of 24 Tony Genovese

Tony Genovese

    Supporting Actor

  • 814 posts
  • Join Date: Oct 05 2000

Posted January 31 2004 - 09:37 AM

Go with 3 MC500's across the front, the S300, and the SVS: sweet.

Axiom is also very good, maybe more dynamic than the CSW, a bit more sensitive, and more attractive, although they do use vinyl (no real wood veneers at all).

#5 of 24 Evan M.

Evan M.

    Supporting Actor

  • 910 posts
  • Join Date: Feb 26 2002

Posted January 31 2004 - 10:06 AM

I wouldn't "forget" the CSW. They are very good speakers. However if it were me I would jump all over those Axiom's. They look very nice and like I said in another post, if I had to do it again I would look very seriously at the exact Axiom set-up you are looking at. Also Axiom ships for free....I think. You could always order the Axioms and buy the CSW and compare. Bring back the loser. This is not a dishonest thing to do if you tell both company's your intentions. They should both not mind at all.

#6 of 24 Tony Genovese

Tony Genovese

    Supporting Actor

  • 814 posts
  • Join Date: Oct 05 2000

Posted January 31 2004 - 11:33 AM

Not sure why you'd need to tell the companies your intention. MBG means MBG for whatever reason.

#7 of 24 Bill Polley

Bill Polley

    Second Unit

  • 252 posts
  • Join Date: Apr 18 2002

Posted January 31 2004 - 12:22 PM

my Axioms are incredible! M80s, VP150, QS-8s, SVS 16-46PCi.
THIS SPACE FOR RENT!

#8 of 24 Evan M.

Evan M.

    Supporting Actor

  • 910 posts
  • Join Date: Feb 26 2002

Posted January 31 2004 - 03:26 PM

"Not sure why you'd need to tell the companies your intention. MGB means MGB for whatever reason."

Just trying to offer advice Tony. Some people do not like to do this as they feel they are takeing advantage of the company. I do not think that way...and aparantly you do not either....but some people do. I like to cover all bases Posted Image.

#9 of 24 Tony Genovese

Tony Genovese

    Supporting Actor

  • 814 posts
  • Join Date: Oct 05 2000

Posted January 31 2004 - 03:55 PM

I only supply information to the vendors on a need to know basis Posted Image!

#10 of 24 MikeLi

MikeLi

    Supporting Actor

  • 945 posts
  • Join Date: May 06 2003

Posted February 01 2004 - 09:25 AM

I say go with the Onix ELT or Rocket package from av123
Of course I am biased but there it is. And SVS rules on subs as well... can't go wrong there.

#11 of 24 Tom Collins

Tom Collins

    Extra

  • 15 posts
  • Join Date: Jan 22 2004

Posted February 01 2004 - 10:22 AM

Would love the rockets, but can't remember if it's their center or rear surrounds that are 4ohm. VSX-45TX will only support 6ohm.

#12 of 24 GregBe

GregBe

    Second Unit

  • 277 posts
  • Join Date: Jul 09 2003

Posted February 02 2004 - 03:39 AM

I own CSW and really like their products. The pricing right now on the Tower and Tower II are insane. I have not heard Axiom, so can't compare the two, but if you do go with the CSW setup, I would recommend the MC400 for the center cannel over the MC500. The drivers will match up better, and I think it sounds better anyway.

Greg

#13 of 24 cabreau

cabreau

    Second Unit

  • 322 posts
  • Join Date: Dec 01 2003

Posted February 02 2004 - 05:12 AM

Evan M., come on, you were at Cambridge Soundworks with me listening to those top of the line speakers that they had. I hated them.

Get the Axioms with an SVS sub.

I would FORGET CSW completely unless they find a way to make those things more affordable, because as far as Price/Sound Value, my ears were definitely not impressed. I was not impressed at all with their best speaker when I heard it.
"...He who knows how to live can walk abroad without fear of rhinocerous or tiger. He will not be wounded in battle. For in him rhinoceroses can find no place to thrust their horn, tigers can find no place to use their claws, and weapons no place to pierce. Why is this so? Because he has no...

#14 of 24 Tony Genovese

Tony Genovese

    Supporting Actor

  • 814 posts
  • Join Date: Oct 05 2000

Posted February 02 2004 - 06:02 AM

Quote:
Evan M., come on, you were at Cambridge Soundworks with me listening to those top of the line speakers that they had. I hated them.


Forming an opinion of a speaker based on an in-store audition is not optimal. In fact, I'd say it's just about 1 step above forming an opinion based on what one reads on the forums. Cambridge offers a 45 day MBG so you can hear them in your environment. Particularly speakers with built in subs need to be dialed in (like subs in general). What you hear in a showroom will not be indicative of what you'll hear at home.

#15 of 24 Sheldon-m

Sheldon-m

    Stunt Coordinator

  • 217 posts
  • Join Date: Oct 22 2003

Posted February 03 2004 - 02:50 AM

has anybody cranked up the axiom?? i'm think ing of upgrading to the axioms. i listen to music(hip hop top 40,jazz) very load somtimes and was wondering if anyowners let those babies roar??? Thx

#16 of 24 Evan M.

Evan M.

    Supporting Actor

  • 910 posts
  • Join Date: Feb 26 2002

Posted February 03 2004 - 03:02 AM

Cabreau......What Tony said!!

I think the CSW are very good speakers and heard them before at peoples houses. The demo we got at the store had to be the worst demo I have ever experienced. The moron working there blasted those things up soooo f%^$#n' loud with us literaly standing 2 feet in front of him. I swear these idiots who think that they have to blast speakers up to impress us really need a reality check. They almost make me feel like we are kids who think that louder is better!!
At any rate CSW are good speakers and have a great return policy and customer support. Just every once in awhile you run into an idiot like cabreau and I did.

#17 of 24 Dan Mastro

Dan Mastro

    Agent

  • 34 posts
  • Join Date: Dec 17 2002

Posted February 03 2004 - 05:20 AM

using 2 m60's, vp150, 2 qs8's and the ep350, cranked with a yammi rxv1300, it will alert your neighbors to the fact that you are home. when home alone, they are quite loud and sound great.
dan

#18 of 24 Sheldon-m

Sheldon-m

    Stunt Coordinator

  • 217 posts
  • Join Date: Oct 22 2003

Posted February 03 2004 - 07:11 AM

Thanks Dan. i was just wondering cause you never hear someone say that they cranked the babies up.but i am really looking forward to getting them in the next few months.
Thx

#19 of 24 cabreau

cabreau

    Second Unit

  • 322 posts
  • Join Date: Dec 01 2003

Posted February 03 2004 - 10:32 AM

Ok. Sorry, I was basing it on the in-store sound. I always thought in-store sounds were better than actual sound at home, since most of those rooms are designed to sound good. But, maybe I'll give them another listen someday.
"...He who knows how to live can walk abroad without fear of rhinocerous or tiger. He will not be wounded in battle. For in him rhinoceroses can find no place to thrust their horn, tigers can find no place to use their claws, and weapons no place to pierce. Why is this so? Because he has no...

#20 of 24 john michiels

john michiels

    Auditioning

  • 13 posts
  • Join Date: Feb 02 2004

Posted February 03 2004 - 11:52 AM

Tom,
I can't speak about the sound quality of Cambridge Speakers
because I have never heard them. I'm a middle aged guy with a wife and three kids 12,15, and 18 so my hi-fi budget was/is tight. My system is comprised of Axiom M40's and M3's and love them both. The M3's are clean, detailed speakers with fantastic range for a small speaker and the 40's are slightly warmer and go a little deeper. I have to buy one of their center channels and a sub to really complete the system. The timbre of my infinity center is not a perfect match. That problem not withstanding, the imagery and detail of Fleetwood Mac's Rumours album in DVD Audio is unbeleivable! Hotel California and Wasted Time Reprise are also incredible (even without the sub). These speakers are a great buy for the money.

I can only wonder how much better the M60's and QS8's would be.

Get both systems demo them side by side and return the loser! Axiom has free shipping to you but you pay the freight back if you return them. Please let me know who won and why. Good Luck!
Thanks,
John