Everett S.
Movie King (formally a projectionist)
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John Hodson said:I have absolutely no interest in George Stevens Jr's digital jiggery pokery (it's the worst of both worlds), and I've attempted to see the film wide myself (via zoom); it wasn't pretty.
Mark-P said:For what it's worth, the US Warner disc is the stereo option. It's the mono option that is missing. This is a modern rechanneling as the stereo tracks from 1953 are lost.
John Hodson said:Sorry Mark, but this has been bothering me a tad; every review says the DTS-HD 2.0 track on the Warner/Paramount disc is mono, and I cannot for the life of me hear separation in the track myself.
That's because all those reviewers are listening to it in direct mode with sound coming only from the left and right speakers. Engage pro-logic mode and you will hear dialog in the center and music and effects gently opened up into the rest of the speaker array. This is a Chace remix from the dialog and music & effects tracks, not the original sound stems, so there is no true stereo separation.John Hodson said:Sorry Mark, but this has been bothering me a tad; every review says the DTS-HD 2.0 track on the Warner/Paramount disc is mono, and I cannot for the life of me hear separation in the track myself.
For the record Warner's Shane label says "DTS-HD Master Audio: Engish 2S". The "S" standing for stereo, as opposed to say their label on All the President's Men which says "DTS-HD Master Audio: English 2M".Lord Dalek said:Yeah, just because its encoded in 2.0 doesn't mean its actually in stereo. In fact its usually better to encode mono that way anyway (single channel tends to sound shriller to my ears).
Exactly what I thought John. That climactic gunfight looks absolutely wrong cropped to widescreen. The rest of the film works reasonable well in 1.66:1 but it's clear that the film was designed for Academy. Nevertheless, full marks to Eureka for a great package and for allowing us the opportunity to view how audiences saw the film when it first opened.John Hodson said:Mine arrived a few days ago. For my money, the scene worst crippled by the original 1.66:1 framing is the final gunfight. I've never been one for pointing at 'caps showing heads clipped as the smoking gun in any AR controversy - sometimes heads are meant to be slightly cropped - but they are cropped here and egregiously so. That long deep shot with Brother Rufe in mid-frame, the bar tender at the top and the dog right at the bottom of the frame only just works wide, but it is *miles* better in Academy. Ladd struggles to keep in frame almost during the whole of the rest of this fast cut scene.
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Mine finally arrived today, but still waiting on The Quiet Man which I ordered the same time.Robert Crawford said:Yeah, I'm still waiting on my package from the UK.