Professor Echo
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Thanks for all your information, Brad. It's the only thing that's kept me reading this, at least for me, exasperating thread.
Thanks Glen, I don't have the detailed knowledge of others, nor the writing style as one like yourself when trying to make a point, but I do try to keep it honest and straightforward without an agenda.Professor Echo said:Thanks for all your information, Brad. It's the only thing that's kept me reading this, at least for me, exasperating thread.
The man is a "know it all" pure and simple. Thinks he knows more than everybody else and then insults them when they have questions. I noticed that when I first came on this board three years ago. The man has some great insight and knowledge but sometimes I wonder how much has been truly gleaned by experience and how much of it is the result of late night marathon sessions of Wikipedia. Food for thought.jimmyjet said:neil,
i appreciate the knowledge that you have, and the information that you share with us.
however, when you get snooty and arrogant, i will give you a swift kick in the behind, as well.
i have never said, stated, inferred, or given any other such notion that i had any particular technical knowledge about film or television.
smithbrad said:Very few studio's are going to dig that far down into what they own. Why would they since they are producing new content everyday. Think about it, every ten years they have ten years worth of new content to syndicate, stream, or release in some form. There is only so much that they can promote that something has to go by the wayside. And why wouldn't that be titles few even remember from 50 years earlier.
We've had ME-TV added to our Direct TV lineup ONLY because it's been spun-off into its own local station but it still shares time with a couple of other networks so it's not totally classic TV all the time.Gary OS said:They've done this with Perry Mason as well. I don't get ME-TV at my house (Direct TV subscriber) but my parents do and the other night while I was visiting we came upon a PM episode and the time-compression was horrible. Sometimes the "Chipmunk" analogy as pure hyperbole, but in this case I can honestly say that Paul Drake sounded like Alvin. It was that bad.
Gary "if I know a particular show well then time-compression can bother me some, but most of the time it's not an issue" O.
This is where (in my opinion) CBS failed The Beverly Hillbillies. They made no differentiation between the PD releases and their official counterparts. They didn't go to any expense to promote these as "full episodes" that had the original music intact and were not edited-for-syndication episodes. They just threw them against the wall in hopes they'd stick.Randy Korstick said:But the longer we/they wait the less people will be around that remember or want old shows and thus less people to sell them to so if there is no one or very few people to sell them to why would they want to spend the money required to release it. Especially if we are expecting them to remaster the show, make sure the episodes and music are complete and restore it if necessary and add some extras. All of this adds to the expense of the release for the studios. So if there isn't a big market for the show then they are not going to make that investment knowing that there is a very strong chance that they will lose money. This is also why many times we get less than desirable releases for older shows.
that assumes that one can only sell the shows to those who saw the original airings.Randy Korstick said:But the longer we/they wait the less people will be around that remember or want old shows and thus less people to sell them to so if there is no one or very few people to sell them to why would they want to spend the money required to release it. Especially if we are expecting them to remaster the show, make sure the episodes and music are complete and restore it if necessary and add some extras. All of this adds to the expense of the release for the studios. So if there isn't a big market for the show then they are not going to make that investment knowing that there is a very strong chance that they will lose money. This is also why many times we get less than desirable releases for older shows.
jimmyjet said:that assumes that one can only sell the shows to those who saw the original airings.
i think they will have value to people 2 centuries from now.
ME-TV will often look better on a tube tv than a high def nontube. Even if you have the aspect ratio right, which it often is not on many widescreen tvs with traditional aspect ratio material, I find that high def tvs are often inferior when it comes to nonhigh def sources.Ron1973 said:We've had ME-TV added to our Direct TV lineup ONLY because it's been spun-off into its own local station but it still shares time with a couple of other networks so it's not totally classic TV all the time.
I could count the number of times on one hand I've actually sat down to watch it. Even on a hi-def TV the picture is sloppy and is reminiscent of watching it on a fuzzy standard-def UHF station. Call me spoiled I guess.
A friend of mine told me that the Petticoat Junction episodes were time-sped though I couldn't tell it when I glanced at it one morning. I tried watching The Beverly Hillbillies and was actually hoping it was time-sped instead of the same tired syndication edited episodes that have been floating around since the 1980's. I could deal with time-sped if I was getting the whole episode. Nope, same old edited episodes that WGN, TV Land, TBS and everyone has been showing for 25+ years. I understand they simply show what they're handed by the syndicator and I don't mean to complain but I can't get past knowing they're butchered.
I've heard that as well. On the other hand (and maybe there's some sort of difference?) I have both a Super Nintendo and Atari 2600 hooked to my TV. They both look absolutely awesome on there to me. It's certainly not hi-def of course but not bad. When I watch Hee Haw on RFD-TV (standard-def) it doesn't look too awful. It seems to be confined to this particular one station carrying the ME-TV shows.JoeDoakes said:ME-TV will often look better on a tube tv than a high def nontube. Even if you have the aspect ratio right, which it often is not on many widescreen tvs with traditional aspect ratio material, I find that high def tvs are often inferior when it comes to nonhigh def sources.