doug zdanivsky
Supporting Actor
Another good episode.. Harry finally shows some chutzpah.. Should have passed on the money, but yeah, I woulda taken it, too.. At least he had a good last word..
If I remember correctly, he suggested that they start a TV department because all the other agencies had one so he was just following the leader and giving himself a promotion rather than bringing anything special to the table. Once again, he has value to SCDP and I understand how he feels he's owed but from what we've seen (or what I remember since it's been years since I've seen the early seasons) he hasn't done anything exemplary at the job unlike other people working there.Scott Hanson said:But didn't Harry at least have the initiative to want to start up a TV division when no one else did? I think that counts for something.
An opinion I have seen expressed quite frequently this week on the web.Matt Hough said:Don's hypocrisy is a real turn-off for me. I loved all of the show dealing with the business side of the agency, but the personal stuff with Don is rather repetitive now and doesn't hold my interest.
I wasn't alive in 1968 but it's amazing to see how many big things happened all in one year.RobertR said:1968 was an incredibly tumultuous year.
That's what Betty will do.Quentin said:But, overall I found it pretty boring.
I don't necessarily disagree, and for the record, I didn't think the entire episode was boring. But maybe they could have had Betty in the episode without actually showing her.TravisR said:I thought Betty was actually pretty well utilized in this episode. With Henry's job, you have to see his part in the response and that is going to have to include Betty. Plus, I like being reminded that she's spiteful enough to send her three children and ex-husband through a riot.
I get the distinct impression, like "The Sopranos" before it, (on which Matt Weiner was also a writer) one of the key themes to "Mad Men" is, fundamentally, people don't change. From the very first time we saw the opening credits in Season 1, the way things are going to play out has been pretty obviously telegraphed, with the stylized image of Don Draper falling through space.Quentin said:A snoozer episode. Some golden moments, I suppose - Peggy's smile, Joan's awkward hug... But, overall I found it pretty boring.
Don's confession to Megan of his shortcomings/emotional struggles was interesting, but I'm really getting tired of broken Don. He needs to start evolving.
Except Tony Soprano alternated between bouts of anxiety/insecurity/depression and megalomaniacal peaks of ego and meanness. Yes, ultimately he didn't change - he was a bad guy. But, he constantly changed in small ways and dealt with a wider range of character issues and problems.Tim Gerdes said:I get the distinct impression, like "The Sopranos" before it, (on which Matt Weiner was also a writer) one of the key themes to "Mad Men" is, fundamentally, people don't change. From the very first time we saw the opening credits in Season 1, the way things are going to play out has been pretty obviously telegraphed, with the stylized image of Don Draper falling through space.
If you are watching "Mad Men" expecting Don to evolve or become unbroken I think you are ultimately going to be disappointed.
In my opinion, this is what makes both Don and Tony Soprano such fascinating characters. Neither show was ever as much about plot or events that large segments of the audience seem to want. Instead they've been character studies about fundamentally unhappy people who superficially try to change their behavior, but ultimately fall back to their self-destructive ways.
While true, Tony was a sociopath, I think Don's trajectory is largely the same but with more nuance. To me the largest difference between the characters is that Tony was under the care of a psychiatrist and medicated for much of the series, which allowed for more of the smaller changes you cite.Quentin said:Don has become more one-note than he even was in the first few seasons. He walks the line of alcoholism and depression but never really talks to anyone about it or indicates ways he can overcome it. His relationship with Dr. Faye seemed to be one chance to talk about it and attempt to overcome it but that was nipped in the bud. He cheats and compartmentalizes. And, he has moments of creativity. And, we get brief moments of him almost reaching happiness.