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Alien 3- correct aspect ratio?

Discussion in 'DVD' started by ScottR, Oct 10, 2002.

  1. ScottR

    ScottR Well-Known Member

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    The dvd of Alien 3 is supposed to be 2.35:1...but the actual film looks very stretched out and "fat." Everyone's heads look squished and all of the on-screen titles almost fall off of the screen...is it supposed to look like this? It's almost as if they blew up the picture and matted it down to 2.35:1.
     
  2. Graeme Clark

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    It looks fine to me. The intro titles seem to have quite a bit of space.
     
  3. Geoff_D

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    The title sequence is stretched in some moments, like when Ripley is put onto the table after she's rescued from the EEV. It's intentional and been that way on every version I've ever seen. And as for the title legends themselves, there is quite a bit missing on my tv - but I've put it down to the overscan on my 28" widescreen set.
     
  4. Michael Reuben

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    The titles on Alien3, as well as the text describing the condition of the Nostromo victims and survivors, go to the extreme edge of the screen, and some letters will fall victim to overscan. Ironically, the P&S version (at least as I recall) letterboxed and windowboxed these early scenes, thus ensuring that all of the text would be readable.
    M.
     
  5. Gordon McMurphy

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    The titles were "shot" in with anamorphic Panavision at 2.40:1, but the principal photography was 1.33:1 Super 35 with 2.40:1 extracted for theatrical prints and widescreen VHS and DVD. I've got a feeling that certain SFX shots were Panavision anamorphic - or maybe even VistaVision! Who knows? Hey, Fincher! :wink:


    Gordy
     
  6. Declan

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    Alien 3 is most definitley Panavision and not Super 35. The only film in the Alien series to use Super 35 was Resurection. Aliens was super 1.85:1 (if i am not mistaken it was one of the few films to use this flimstock), Alien 1 and 3 were Panavision. This is from experience from watching the film in P/S for over 5-6 years on tape then finally seeing the DVD. But watching the tape you could tell easily that it was Panavision.
     
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    Not true. It was filmed in Panavision. Declan is right.
     
  8. Gordon McMurphy

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    Yeah, sorry Declan, you are 100% correct - Alien 3 was shot exclusively with anamorphic lenses at 2.40:1 :b
    I haven't seen the film in a long time, and because Fincher seems use Super 35 for his films now, I figured he had always used it! [​IMG] Silly me. [​IMG]
    But what's "Super 1.85:1"? You said that Aliens was shot in that process. I've never heard of it.
    Thanks for clearing things up, guys. [​IMG]
    Gordy
     
  9. Iain Lambert

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    Another easy way to tell that Alien3 is Panavision is that they've gone lens-flare crazy on the cinematography in a couple of the sections, and these are all nice oval ones.

    The other weird anamorphic lens thing is the bit shot from the Alien POV - it seems that they have an anamorphic lens on the screen and rotate it independantly of the camera. I wouldn't be surprised if that particular shot was Super35 or something, simply to avoid having to have multiple anamorphic lenses.
     
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  11. Declan

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    yeah, thats it. Could'nt think what type of filmstock that was that Cameron used. Simple when you think about it though, cheers Carl
     
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    Sorry, my mistake.
     
  14. Matt Naglieri

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    Im new to the forum and this is my first post.
    This is something thats been bothering me for about 10 years now. I decided to put alien 3 into my computer dvd player using windvd and somehow it presents it as it was intended with the full titles displayed. In addition to that theres about a half inch or so of picutre on the side of each title.
    If there is any question I am referring to the scenes where the bodys are pulled from the wreckage and their names are displayed on screen.
    If someone can tell me how to get a picture of the screen to display for everyone to see please let me know.[​IMG] [​IMG]
     
  15. ScottR

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    Welcome to the forum, Matt!!!
     
  16. Matt Naglieri

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    Thanks for the welcome Scott,

    I've been able to get images of the shots as they should be if anyone would like me to send them via e-mail please let me know
     
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    Super 1.85 is not a format.

    It is simply FA or full aperture as opposed to RA, regular aperture, which has the information centered within the actual projected area exclusive of soundtrack.

    Films have been shot this way for decades, especially when they were to be printed via dye transfer, allowing for the use of the additional frame real estate.

    As an example, the majority of Hitchcock's films from the 60s were shot FA, ie, Birds, Marnie, etc.

    RAH
     
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    Does anyone wonder if the newly restored version of Alien 3
    will be a re-telecined at 2.40:1? Bear in my mind that's, David Fincher's prefferd final widescreen release ratio.
     
  19. Mike Graham

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    DVD software for computers, such as WinDVD, does not overscan the DVD files, so some titles, especially Blade Runner, appear letterboxed and windowboxed.
     
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