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An in depth review from Glenn Erickson of the Trailers from Hell blog of the Gog 3-D Blu-ray is now online and I think it might be the first. In summary, Erickson says "the result is VERY impressive." The release is just a couple of weeks away (3/01). :3dglasses:
 

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Uff-topic, but since HTF has merged 3D into this forum, is there any reason why 3D is omitted from the Forum Board title? I understand that the industry-at-large is working very, very hard to hide 3D's existence from consumers but one would hope that an A/V site would knew better and make it easier for those looking..
 

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I think it has more to do with the new forum software than any attempt to "hide" 3D. You can can click on 3D at the top of the forum section and create your own 3D forum, if you will.
 

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Svet Atanasov's review is up for Comin' At Ya! (Blu-ray 3-D). This is how he describes PQ:

The release includes the 2D and 3D versions of the film. It is sourced from a new 4K master and has been supervised and produced by Tony Anthony himself and Tom Stern (In God's Hands), through his company Sternco 3D.

The bulk of the film boasts rather pleasing depth, but there are various sequences with noticeable density fluctuations. Some of these fluctuations are clearly inherited, but there is also flatness that appears to have been introduced during the encoding process. To be perfectly clear, from time to time the grain moves quite awkwardly and produces some unusual effects. They are not distracting, but the film's overall appearance is rather inconsistent. On the other hand, it isn't difficult to tell that the element that was accessed during the restoration was not in optimal condition -- there are traces of fading, discoloration, and various damage marks and debris. Some adjustments have been made to rebalance the image as best as possible -- with the 3D footage in particular being carefully rebalanced and transferred -- and for the most part they are quite good, but one should keep in mind that this was not an extensive restoration job (small marks, scratches and dirt remain).

The 3D footage looks good, at times even very good, but it has to be said that it has obvious native limitations. For example, some flatness is present during the darker footage and elsewhere the color pops are modest at best. Contrast is also a bit erratic. But such is the film's original 3D design -- many of the visual effects work as intended but other times the limitations of the filming equipment become very obvious.

Ultimately, there is clearly room for some important improvements, but at present the film does have a pleasing, if slightly inconsistent, organic appearance. (Note: This is a Region-Free Blu-ray release. Therefore, you will be able to play it on your player regardless of your geographical location).​
 

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Uff-topic, but since HTF has merged 3D into this forum, is there any reason why 3D is omitted from the Forum Board title? I understand that the industry-at-large is working very, very hard to hide 3D's existence from consumers but one would hope that an A/V site would knew better and make it easier for those looking..

I think it has more to do with the new forum software than any attempt to "hide" 3D. You can can click on 3D at the top of the forum section and create your own 3D forum, if you will.

That's exactly right. You'll find a number of "tags" lined up across the top of the Blu-ray/UHD Forum. Just select the topic heading that interests you and it will sort the threads accordingly. It just amounts to a different filing system for the forum.
 

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I saw The Martian in 3D and it was good! I love watching scenes in space in 3D, Gravity is a great example, and computer displays and readouts look cool too. The Martian landscape looked great in 3D too. Pop out? Was there any? Can't remember. I saw The Martian last year at the cinema in 2D, I regret that now but it's not always my choice.

Picked up Hotel Transylvania 2 in 3D earlier today, it's my 173rd 3D movie purchase.

I still haven't watched Minions, Inside Out or Home in 3D.
 

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I saw The Martian in 3D and it was good! I love watching scenes in space in 3D, Gravity is a great example, and computer displays and readouts look cool too. The Martian landscape looked great in 3D too. Pop out? Was there any? Can't remember. I saw The Martian last year at the cinema in 2D, I regret that now but it's not always my choice.

Picked up Hotel Transylvania 2 in 3D earlier today, it's my 173rd 3D movie purchase.

I still haven't watched Minions, Inside Out or Home in 3D.

Well don't expect any pop out with those 3 lol.
 

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Well don't expect any pop out with those 3 lol.
Yes, very little pop out in the Martian, except: 1) During the dust storm, a lot of the debris seems to be in front of the screen; and 2) There is a moment when the Hermes is coming forward towards the camera and this is a brief projection.

The Martian is proof for me that depth can be very satisfying. Still, why has Hollywood got this "thing" opposing pop out?
 

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why has Hollywood got this "thing" opposing pop out?
To cater to the inefficient 3D display technology consumers are stuck with? Making 3D easier to resolve.

Pop-outs do NOT have to be "hackie" or a "stunt" where illusion comes out and smacks you in the face! But I find it essential, if for nothing else, as a visual reference for quality realism, stimulating the emotion of artistic 3D involvement.
 

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Yeah I agree, there seems a multitude of reasons why 3D is what it now is. In the early stages a lot of people found pop out to be uncomfortable or headache inducing. Poor displays, badly setup displays. Added cost for 3D at the cinema, poorly setup cinemas. Extra cost of 3D blu Rays. Studios now post converting instead of shooting native 3D.
The list is endless...

I love 3D and I will watch depth only movies especially if the movie itself is worth watching but enjoyable 3D really needs good depth and pop out, I shouldn't use the term pop out as it sounds gimmicky but it's quicker to type than 'forward projection!.
Take ' house of magic' for instance where thunder the little cat climbs up through the tree and branches to reach the little window at the top of the creepy house, I feel as though I'm actually following him up there!, now that's good 3D :3dglasses:
 

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Yeah I agree, there seems a multitude of reasons why 3D is what it now is. In the early stages a lot of people found pop out to be uncomfortable or headache inducing. Poor displays, badly setup displays. Added cost for 3D at the cinema, poorly setup cinemas. Extra cost of 3D blu Rays. Studios now post converting instead of shooting native 3D.
The list is endless...

I love 3D and I will watch depth only movies especially if the movie itself is worth watching but enjoyable 3D really needs good depth and pop out, I shouldn't use the term pop out as it sounds gimmicky but it's quicker to type than 'forward projection!.
Take ' house of magic' for instance where thunder the little cat climbs up through the tree and branches to reach the little window at the top of the creepy house, I feel as though I'm actually following him up there!, now that's good 3D :3dglasses:
 

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Hollywood doesn't like pop-out because how people react to it is beyond its control and studios don't want litigious US consumers bombarding them with frivolous damages claims for eyestrain. It could end up being the new whiplash.
Lack of guts and innovation in Hollywood. Who knew . . . ?
 

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Hollywood doesn't like pop-out because how people react to it is beyond its control and studios don't want litigious US consumers bombarding them with frivolous damages claims for eyestrain. It could end up being the new whiplash.
Lack of guts and innovation in Hollywood. Who knew . . . ?


Wow. First time I heard that explanation.

Is that truly for real?'
 

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I'm new to 3D. Ronald -- Thanks for the expert advice and this forum. Long live 3D. Here are a few standouts I recently watched.

Pacific Rim 3D
***** WOW! Very impressive, immersive 3D experience. Demo Quality for all 3D lovers. A Must See 3D.
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Thunder and the House of Magic 3D ***** WOW! for pop-outs, bright color, and creative animation. In the top tier of the best animated 3D I've seen. Story so,so and predictable but in 3D it will be enjoyed by the entire family. Demo Quality.
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Madagascar 3 3D ***** Another WOW! animated 3D. Bright, colorful, lots of pop-outs with excellent depth, and a very funny story for kids and adults. Witty dialog. Combined 3D and hilarious story/characters puts this in the top 3D tier. Demo Quality.
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Wow. First time I heard that explanation.

Is that truly for real?'

It's just my theory. I read that Thomas Jane had restrictions placed on how extreme he could be with his 3D on "Dark Country" and the only sensible conclusion is that the producers didn't want to alienate audiences by giving their eyes too much of a workout.
By all accounts no one seemed too bothered in the 50s about having stuff lobbed at them from the screen so maybe today's audiences are just wimps (or producers think they are).
Any other reasonable explanations will be considered.:):3dglasses:
 

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My thought is that pop-out isn't done much in the modern era because of a fear of it either not translating to 2-D home video viewing (which is how and where the movie will eventually be seen the most) or a fear of the pop-out momentarily taking the viewer out of the story for a visual flourish.
 

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