Ultraviolet: What do you like and not like about it?

Discussion in 'Streaming and Digital Media' started by Adam Gregorich, May 23, 2012.

  1. huskerbear@frontier.com

    huskerbear@frontier.com Stunt Coordinator

    Joined:
    Jun 16, 2013
    Messages:
    190
    Likes Received:
    32
    Real Name:
    Mike
    Yes, a step in the right direction. I think Disney is trying to save face while admitting it has become necessary to include something other than just an itunes code now days. Its nice that it will show up with the rest of our movies (for those using vudu) but I'm still on the fence about supporting that by getting OZ. Might have been an easier decision if they hadn't screwed up the normal 3D/blu/dvd/digital release the way they did.
     
  2. Sam Posten

    Sam Posten Moderator
    Moderator

    Joined:
    Oct 30, 1997
    Messages:
    20,703
    Likes Received:
    1,824
    Location:
    Aberdeen, MD & Navesink, NJ
    Real Name:
    Sam Posten
    So you are trading one silo for another and not getting any of the UV benefits. Walmart is surely a terrific custodian of that trust! ;)

    Also, so we're now talking 5 years for the full, streamlined everyone is part of it UV, eh?
     
  3. huskerbear@frontier.com

    huskerbear@frontier.com Stunt Coordinator

    Joined:
    Jun 16, 2013
    Messages:
    190
    Likes Received:
    32
    Real Name:
    Mike
    What other silo? I'm sure itunes would work great as it does for many people, but, and its a big but...itunes doesn't work on any of my devices so its a non starter for me. Amazon might be ok but I really like the way ultraviolet is set up. Add in the fact that studio support for itunes is declining while support for UV is becoming the standard according to this chart, UV is not only the smart choice but for most of us, its about the only choice.


    Below are the current standings in the digital copy market..

    Note: I couldn't get the chart to copy correctly but the info is there and here is a link....https://forum.vudu.com/showthread.php?940021-Why-isn-t-21-amp-Over-UV


    elow are the current standings in the digital copy market..

    MAJOR STUDIOS DIGITAL COPY METHOD US/CAN MARKET SHARE (2012) Link to Example


    Disney Studios DigitalCopy+

    Choice of one of the below
    EST providers;
    1) Amazon
    2) iTunes
    3) Vudu


    14.3%
    Sony Pictures/Columbia UltraViolet Only 17.0% Warner Brothers Ultraviolet Only 15.4% CLICK HERE 20th Century Fox Ultraviolet Only 10.6% Paramount Ultraviolet & iTunes 8.5% Lionsgate Ultraviolet & iTunes ~7.5% (near-major) CLICK HERE Universal Ultraviolet & iTunes 13.6%
    MINOR STUDIOS DIGITAL COPY METHOD Link to Example Starz/Anchor Bay Ultraviolet Only CLICK HERE Relativity Media iTunes Only Arc Entertainment Vudu Only CLICK HERE The Weinstein Company Ultraviolet & iTunes CLICK HERE



    As a recap;

    [*]No major studio is offering iTunes exclusive digital copy redemptions as of June 11th `13
    [*]43% of the market has Ultraviolet as their exclusive digital copy method
    (add to this a few minor studios who too are exclusive UV)
    [*]72.6% of the market has Ultraviolet as their primary digital copy method
    [*]86.9% of the market is controlled by the major studios and all have Ultraviolet digital copy redemptions
    (except for disney studios which is currently back door'ing the UV process via Vudu).
    [/list]
     
  4. MattAlbie60

    MattAlbie60 I Work for Mr. E. H. Harriman of the Union Pacific

    Joined:
    Oct 21, 2010
    Messages:
    561
    Likes Received:
    11
    Location:
    Baltimore, Maryland
    Real Name:
    Stephen Lilley
    LINCOLN just came with an iTunes only code a few months ago. I think that was the last major release that I bought that had that.
     
  5. Sam Posten

    Sam Posten Moderator
    Moderator

    Joined:
    Oct 30, 1997
    Messages:
    20,703
    Likes Received:
    1,824
    Location:
    Aberdeen, MD & Navesink, NJ
    Real Name:
    Sam Posten
    Trading the iTunes silo for Vudu's. Clearly Vudu is available for more devices than iTunes (and this is why I believe Apple will make a web player for iTunes sooner than later, but i digress) but you are still locked in to one vendor. The promise of UV was that your locker would transcend these one off relationships. And that hasn't happened, in fact it's more cumbersome because of it,with 5 different logins still and multiple caveats about what works on it and what doesn't and the rules about how you can use them, and in this case the Vudu exclusivity is working against the principle point of UV.
     
  6. MattAlbie60

    MattAlbie60 I Work for Mr. E. H. Harriman of the Union Pacific

    Joined:
    Oct 21, 2010
    Messages:
    561
    Likes Received:
    11
    Location:
    Baltimore, Maryland
    Real Name:
    Stephen Lilley
    For the BEST OF BOTH WORLDS code, I literally had to sign up for a new Paramount UV account and that's the only place you could redeem/view. It wouldn't work anywhere else. I think it's on Vudu now, but you couldn't even do it through Flixter on release day.
     
  7. Joshua Clinard

    Joshua Clinard Screenwriter

    Joined:
    Aug 25, 2000
    Messages:
    1,819
    Likes Received:
    68
    Location:
    Abilene, TX
    Real Name:
    Joshua Clinard
    Lincoln was a Disney release, so it came with iTunes. But Disney is now releasing new titles with both. I'm fine with that, never advocated for studio's to offer UV only. Choice is good for the consumer. And whoever said anything about 5 years? I think Disney will begin to offer UV by 2014.
     
    Towergrove likes this.
  8. huskerbear@frontier.com

    huskerbear@frontier.com Stunt Coordinator

    Joined:
    Jun 16, 2013
    Messages:
    190
    Likes Received:
    32
    Real Name:
    Mike
    I agree, without UV support, just giving a Vudu code is really lacking.....but it is a step in the right direction. There are 8-9 places to access your UV movies right now, Vudu is just the most popular right now because they have more of the bugs worked out.

    On the multiple log ins, I don't even see that as a factor. Sure you have to get it all set up initially, but after that its very simple, heck I'm a tech idiot compared to many and had no trouble.
    I guess the hope is these Vudu codes will become UV enabled when Disney gets onboard.
     
  9. Everett Stallings

    Everett Stallings Supporting Actor

    Joined:
    Aug 24, 1998
    Messages:
    634
    Likes Received:
    92
    Location:
    Wilmington,De
    Real Name:
    Everett
    Yes, I paid for Blu-ray the UV copy should be HDX!
     
  10. huskerbear@frontier.com

    huskerbear@frontier.com Stunt Coordinator

    Joined:
    Jun 16, 2013
    Messages:
    190
    Likes Received:
    32
    Real Name:
    Mike
    Your not getting HDX codes from bluray purchases? I have only been doing Ultraviolet for a short time but, I have about 90 movies so far and almost every code from a bluray is redeeming HDX. Anyone looking for porn should try a Roku box.
     
  11. cinemaparker

    cinemaparker Auditioning

    Joined:
    Aug 6, 2013
    Messages:
    10
    Likes Received:
    0
    Real Name:
    Terrence
    Ultraviolet has got to be the single worst service I've ever used for anything. It is completely unintuitive and so badly laid out in terms of account management that it baffles me that this has yet to be resolved. What's even crazier about the whole setup is that if you sign on through the official site, it asks you for a user name. If you sign on through the Sony Pictures Store however, you use the email address associated with the account to sign in. I already have a hard enough time managing the glut of usernames/passwords/emails associated with every other account I use but the UV setup frazzles me every single time. Unlinking accounts from Flixster is a whole other nightmare as well. Merging two UV accounts? Forget it.

    I honestly believe that this service is made difficult to manage to deter people from... well, I don't know what (maybe just enjoying life in general) but seriously, this has to be one of the absolute worst experiences I have ever had with a service. Digital copies should NOT be restricted to just Ultraviolet and should allow you the option to download via iTunes if it's going to be made this frustrating.
     
  12. Sam Posten

    Sam Posten Moderator
    Moderator

    Joined:
    Oct 30, 1997
    Messages:
    20,703
    Likes Received:
    1,824
    Location:
    Aberdeen, MD & Navesink, NJ
    Real Name:
    Sam Posten
    Clearly an Apple plant! =) Welcome to HTF Terrence...
     
  13. Towergrove

    Towergrove Screenwriter

    Joined:
    Jan 7, 2011
    Messages:
    1,097
    Likes Received:
    281
    Real Name:
    Sarah
    Happy Ultraviolet user here purchasing many films on the VUDU UV supported site I HDX. I'm glad for UV and can play my films on Apple, Android, Roku, PC, samsung, LG TVS whereas my iTunes purchases are stuck to apple only products in their walled garden.
     
  14. Jason Charlton

    Jason Charlton Ambassador

    Joined:
    May 16, 2002
    Messages:
    3,503
    Likes Received:
    374
    Location:
    Baltimore, MD
    Real Name:
    Jason Charlton
    I have iTunes on my PC at home and can happily watch movies there if I want to. I use that to sync movies via iTunes with my iPad. I store all my iTunes digital copies (I don't have many nor have I redeemed very many) on a large-capacity external hard drive on my PC and swap them out on my iPad as I deem necessary (only have a 16GB model iPad, so storage is limited).

    I don't find the iTunes approach limiting at all.
     
  15. Joshua Clinard

    Joshua Clinard Screenwriter

    Joined:
    Aug 25, 2000
    Messages:
    1,819
    Likes Received:
    68
    Location:
    Abilene, TX
    Real Name:
    Joshua Clinard
    I'm pretty happy with the vudu service, so if Disney disc's include a vudu copy, then I will take it. Sure, there are a few drawbacks because they aren't UV, but as long as I can watch the movie on all my vudu devices, and in HD, then that is good enough, for now. Of course I still hope for UV in the future.

    On another note, yesterday, Sword in the Stone and Robin Hood was released with a vudu or Amazon digital copy. No iTunes copy was offered. DIdn't see that coming, but I like it! I think iTunes should be forced out of the market until they join UV.
     
  16. cinemaparker

    cinemaparker Auditioning

    Joined:
    Aug 6, 2013
    Messages:
    10
    Likes Received:
    0
    Real Name:
    Terrence
    FInally gave up on Flixster and signed up for Vudu, all so I can link my UV account to it with no problems. I kept getting an error message from Flixster when I tried to link the two together and I've gotten no kind of tech support from either side after multiple contact attempts.
     
  17. huskerbear@frontier.com

    huskerbear@frontier.com Stunt Coordinator

    Joined:
    Jun 16, 2013
    Messages:
    190
    Likes Received:
    32
    Real Name:
    Mike
     
    Towergrove likes this.
  18. All I know is the day Apple announces it is joining UV I will be one happy camper
     
    Towergrove likes this.
  19. Towergrove

    Towergrove Screenwriter

    Joined:
    Jan 7, 2011
    Messages:
    1,097
    Likes Received:
    281
    Real Name:
    Sarah
    and it looks like the UV train is picking up steam: Blu-ray, UltraViolet Sales Jump in First Half of 2013
    http://www.cepro.com/article/blu_ray_ultraviolet_sales_jump_in_first_half_of_2013/Its great that UV is making inroads.
     
  20. Neil S. Bulk

    Neil S. Bulk Screenwriter

    Joined:
    Sep 13, 1999
    Messages:
    1,394
    Likes Received:
    223
    Real Name:
    Neil S. Bulk
    The Muppet Movie came with a digital copy code. When I entered it in I was asked if I wanted it unlocked on Vudu or Amazon. I chose Vudu as that works on my tablet and phone as well as Roku. I didn't realize there was a deal in place with Amazon.
     

Share This Page