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Title: Toy Story 4 (2019)
Genre: Adventure, Comedy, Family
Director: Josh Cooley
Cast: Tom Hanks, Tim Allen, Annie Potts, Joan Cusack, Blake Clark, Wallace Shawn, Jodi Benson, John Ratzenberger, Keanu Reeves, Patricia Arquette, Jordan Peele, Timothy Dalton, Keegan-Michael Key, Kristen Schaal, Laurie Metcalf, Bonnie Hunt, Lori Alan, Jeff Garlin, Tony Hale, Estelle Harris, Bud Luckey, Jeff Pidgeon, Christina Hendricks, Ally Maki, Don Rickles
Release: 2019-06-20
Plot: Woody and Buzz Lightyear set out on an epic journey to find Woody's romantic interest, Bo Peep.Pixar's 2019 release will be Toy Story 4.
I'm not really sure if we need a Toy Story 4 since the third one left it in such a wonderful place to end, but I have to assume Pixar knows the value of its flagship franchise and wouldn't trot out another sequel if they thought it was going to be bad. There is a big difference in terms of producing a bad sequel to something as iconic and loved as Toy Story, as opposed to producing a bad sequel to, say, Cars. Hopefully they understand that.
Josh Cooley, who directed "Riley's First Date?", the short on the Inside Out Blu-ray, is directing in his feature film directing debut. He was originally co-director under John Lasseter, but Lasseter left the project (even before his sabbatical.)
I don't want to get into the sabbatical here because we've already been discussing that in the allegations thread in the off-topic forum. However, as a result of his sabbatical, it has come out that Rishada Jones and Eric McCormick, who were originally announced to write this film, are no longer attached to it. That was news to me when it was mentioned in the context of Lasseter's sabbatical, because I don't think their departure had ever been publicly announced before that. I'm wondering when they left and, more importantly, who is replacing them.
I'm also curious about he timetable of this film, in terms of the narrative. It has been delayed a couple times, originally having been set for this year, and then 2018, before settling on 2019. That means nine years will have passed in between Toy Story 3 and this film. We've seen the toys during that interval in a few Toy Story Toons shorts, as well as the Toy Story of Terror and Toy Story That Time Forgot TV specials for ABC, but those are shorts and while they are entertaining, nothing much happens in them that changes the state of the world for the toys.
For the other Toy Story films, the time in between films in the real world had also elapsed within the story. If that happens again, then Bonnie, who inherited the toys from Andy in the terrific ending of the last film, will have likely aged up to a point where she doesn't play with the toys anymore either. While Toy Story 3 is a fantastic film, I'm not really sure I want to go through that arc again in the fourth one, because it would be the same thing we just saw. If they decide to go the Finding Dory route and *not* age up the character, then it's possible that Bonnie could need a new voice actor. I think the same girl from the film played her in the shorts, but the most recent of those, Toy Story That Time Forgot, was in 2014, only four years after her film, so her voice hadn't really changed that much in that time. Now, it might be a different story.
Also, obviously I don't know how much of this is being kept if Jones and McCormick have left, but it was previously stated that the new film would be a love story between Woody and Bo Peep, whom he is going to try to find. I think that's a cool idea, since they certainly made her absence felt in Toy Story 3. However, given the gap of several years between Toy Story 2 and 3 -- not to mention whatever kind of gap they'll have between 3 and 4 -- I'm curious how they will handle that. If Andy got rid of Bo Peep at some point during the years between 2 and 3, which even in terms of the story was a long time ago now, then why is Woody suddenly going after her now? As in, why didn't he do it years ago when she was first given away? And how would he even begin to figure out where she went? She could have ended up anywhere. Obviously, too, he wants *his* Bo Peep, not another copy of her (in the same sense that there are copies of Buzz and the other toys, there are probably multiple Bo Peeps manufactured in this world.) So, while I think this might be a cool story, I also think there are some logical questions they'll need to answer in the narrative to make it work.
So...yeah. All of that has been on my mind lately, and so I thought I would start the thread.
Your thoughts?
I'm not really sure if we need a Toy Story 4 since the third one left it in such a wonderful place to end, but I have to assume Pixar knows the value of its flagship franchise and wouldn't trot out another sequel if they thought it was going to be bad. There is a big difference in terms of producing a bad sequel to something as iconic and loved as Toy Story, as opposed to producing a bad sequel to, say, Cars. Hopefully they understand that.
Josh Cooley, who directed "Riley's First Date?", the short on the Inside Out Blu-ray, is directing in his feature film directing debut. He was originally co-director under John Lasseter, but Lasseter left the project (even before his sabbatical.)
I don't want to get into the sabbatical here because we've already been discussing that in the allegations thread in the off-topic forum. However, as a result of his sabbatical, it has come out that Rishada Jones and Eric McCormick, who were originally announced to write this film, are no longer attached to it. That was news to me when it was mentioned in the context of Lasseter's sabbatical, because I don't think their departure had ever been publicly announced before that. I'm wondering when they left and, more importantly, who is replacing them.
I'm also curious about he timetable of this film, in terms of the narrative. It has been delayed a couple times, originally having been set for this year, and then 2018, before settling on 2019. That means nine years will have passed in between Toy Story 3 and this film. We've seen the toys during that interval in a few Toy Story Toons shorts, as well as the Toy Story of Terror and Toy Story That Time Forgot TV specials for ABC, but those are shorts and while they are entertaining, nothing much happens in them that changes the state of the world for the toys.
For the other Toy Story films, the time in between films in the real world had also elapsed within the story. If that happens again, then Bonnie, who inherited the toys from Andy in the terrific ending of the last film, will have likely aged up to a point where she doesn't play with the toys anymore either. While Toy Story 3 is a fantastic film, I'm not really sure I want to go through that arc again in the fourth one, because it would be the same thing we just saw. If they decide to go the Finding Dory route and *not* age up the character, then it's possible that Bonnie could need a new voice actor. I think the same girl from the film played her in the shorts, but the most recent of those, Toy Story That Time Forgot, was in 2014, only four years after her film, so her voice hadn't really changed that much in that time. Now, it might be a different story.
Also, obviously I don't know how much of this is being kept if Jones and McCormick have left, but it was previously stated that the new film would be a love story between Woody and Bo Peep, whom he is going to try to find. I think that's a cool idea, since they certainly made her absence felt in Toy Story 3. However, given the gap of several years between Toy Story 2 and 3 -- not to mention whatever kind of gap they'll have between 3 and 4 -- I'm curious how they will handle that. If Andy got rid of Bo Peep at some point during the years between 2 and 3, which even in terms of the story was a long time ago now, then why is Woody suddenly going after her now? As in, why didn't he do it years ago when she was first given away? And how would he even begin to figure out where she went? She could have ended up anywhere. Obviously, too, he wants *his* Bo Peep, not another copy of her (in the same sense that there are copies of Buzz and the other toys, there are probably multiple Bo Peeps manufactured in this world.) So, while I think this might be a cool story, I also think there are some logical questions they'll need to answer in the narrative to make it work.
So...yeah. All of that has been on my mind lately, and so I thought I would start the thread.
Your thoughts?