Too Big?

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  1. Christopher B

    Christopher B Stunt Coordinator

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    Hello,
    I am on the verge of a LCD Projection TV purchase and I am already getting a lot of help from you guys, but I have another question.
    The distance from the TV to the couch is about 8-9 feet. I have looked at all the calculations for suggested TV size, but they all basically come down to personal preference. Here is the question.

    Does anyone here with a short distance between seating and the TV have a really large TV, like a 60"? If so, do you find it too big or do you get used to it. I want to create a theater experience, but I don't want to feel overwhelmed by the TV.

    Any personal experience would be appreciated.

    Thanks

    Christopher B
     
  2. CalvinCarr

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    I would think a 50" would be good at that distance. I sit about 12 feet and have decided against the 70" for a 60". I then have 1500 for other stuff too.
     
  3. Christopher B

    Christopher B Stunt Coordinator

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    Calvin,
    The money I would save getting the 50" would definately make the SVS purchase easier. I always thought I would just get as big as I could when I made this purchase, but when I am in the store looking at the 60" and being a bit overwhelmed, it made me wonder if 50" is better or am I just not used to the huge screen?

    I guess bigger isn't always better!
     
  4. Mark Murphy

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    In my experience, looking at TVs in a store doesn't compare to seeing them in your home environment when it comes to the actual size of the TV. If a 60" overwhelms you at the store, it will probably overwhelm you even more at home. I sit about 8.5'-9' away from my TV (42") and its plenty big for me. The same TV in the store looks like a 25" version of my TV compared to the way it looks at home. I also have an SVS. I say go for the smaller TV and get the SVS. You won't be disapointed.
     
  5. Jonty Rees

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    ....isn't that like being too rich?[​IMG] My only concern on too big would be whether there's room to accomodate the box, and if the picture quality is good enough from that viewing distance. I honestly don't think you would regret a big picture when you're sitting there watching a very sweeping, panoramic movie, say Lawrence of Arabia or similar.
     
  6. LaMarcus

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    I don't feel you'll be too big at that distance. I sat 10' away and it was just fine for me. For my father he couldn't stand being that close, but for my friends they thought it was cool.

    Personally If I were you I get a front projector and not get the RPTV. If I had it to do all over again, that would be my choice. For the price of a RPTV you could get a 36" tv and a projector and screen. Then for all your regular tv watching you'll have the 36" (which is nice for reg. tv watching), then at night pull down the screen and boom!! Your good to go!!
     
  7. Jon_Gregory

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    I sit 8 feet away from my 53" and It is not too big. It took some getting used to the size, but now I love it.
     
  8. Eric Hahn

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    I sit 10-11 ft from a 48, big at first, then shrunk, I now hang a 82" fp screen and watch it from the same distance, only limitation is the pj, any closer than 2x the screen width, and I see the screen door, and sd cable look bad, but sd ota, is a different story[​IMG]

    If you are set on rp go big, they may sem big at first, but will shrink quickly over time.
     
  9. Jonty Rees

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    LaMarcus - that is exactly the set up I have just gone with. Large 96x72" pull down screen in front of my trusty old 35" Sony for cable.
     
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    I'm a bit farther (11') and use a 100" screen. I'd go slightly bigger too, but there's no room. [​IMG]
     
  11. Christopher B

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    LaMarcus & Jonty,
    Can you guys recommend a decent FP? I figure I at least need to check it out. What is the picture like with the FP? How does the picture compare to a regular TV and a RP? Can you recommend a good website?

    I was always under the impression that a nice quality FP would cost a little too much for me. I know that the technolgy is getting better with the LCDs. I will probably do a search here for FPs and see if I can find stuff.

    Thanks
    Christopher

    P.S. I just joined the forum yesterday and I am wondering why I waited so long!
     
  12. Cam McFarland

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    I have re-arranged the furniture in my Tv room, & have
    had the sofa anywhere from 8-10ft to probably 16ft
    from my 65" & never felt overwheled......you do get
    used to it.
     
  13. Ron-P

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    My front row is 9' from my 85" diagonal screen. It's perfect.

    It may seem big now but it shrinks over time. Before I went front projection I had a 46" Mits and my front row way 6' from that. It seemed perfect at the time but about 6 months later I wanted bigger. Thus, I sold the Mits and bought a Panny 200u LCD FP. I'll never go back to a TV again. If you can, save yourself some money and go FP.
     
  14. Aaron Gilbert

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    I recently got an LCD front projector, and think I can fairly easily say that 60" would not be too big for that viewing distance (assuming it's a good LCD set). First off, that's 60" diagonal, which for a widescreen set would be only 52" wide. That puts you at 1.85 times the screen width away for your 8' seating figure. Granted, the farther away you are, potentially the better the picture gets, but in terms of viewing angle, here are the recommendations:

    Dolby recommends that the screen encompass 30 degrees of your field of view. For an 8' distance between your eyes and the screen, this works out to a screen 52" wide. Hmm, I didn't see that coming, but there you go. [​IMG]

    THX recommends a slightly wider screen, filling 36 degrees in your field of view. For the same 8' distance, this equates to a screen that is 62" wide (71" diagonal for a 16:9 set).

    I have a 90" screen (72" wide) and sit 9' away, which is about a 37 degree viewing angle. Works for me!

    All that said, the recommendations really are just suggestions. Just as in the real cinema you are free to sit in the front row or the back row, at home you can make the viewing angle as large or small as you like.

    As the image sizes we are discussing tend to be much more revealing of low quality source material, I'm finding it is extremely nice to be able to adjust the image size with my projector zoom or turning off the scaling. For TV, I still have my 31" CRT behind the screen. If you go with a rear projection set, you'll have to ditch the direct view TV, and you won't be able to shrink the image, not to mention your off-axis viewing will be considerably worse than it could be with a front projector. Of course, there are several drawbacks to projectors as well, which I won't get into at the moment.


    Aaron Gilbert
     
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    I'm 9 feet away from my 51 RPTV and it seem just a little to big. 11 feet looks better to me. But I just got the tv a few weeks ago so I'll probably get used to it. It's better to go too big then too small. With RPTV, if you sit too close the picture doesn't look as good. Too dim and fuzzy. I don't think projectors have this problem. Pictures will just look pixelated if you sit too close.
     
  16. LaMarcus

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    Chris I'll put it too you like this. I paid $3000 for my 65", $650 for my 36".

    Right now you can get a SWEET pj for $1500, $600 for a 36" tv, $300 for a sweet screen. And be at $2400, and still have $600 to boot. Looks like you have enough for a SVS too![​IMG]

    RPTV's are a thing of the past (for a HT enthusiasts that is). Get a PJ and never look back. Just my $.02
     
  17. Nick.H

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    Mine is setup for 145" which is about 4.6m away.
     
  18. Dave_vega

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    I sit 6-7 feet away from my 46" philips and at first it was freegin' massive, but now it seems just perfect..I could have done a 51-53" but I think that would have been pushing it for size..I am very happy with the 46"..
     
  19. Parker Clack

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    I agree with everyone that is suggesting that you go with a good front projector like the Sanyo Z2 or Panasonic PT L500U with a good screen (I would recommend checking out the screens by Carada) for watching DVD and HiDef. Then use your CRT for watching over the air/cable stuff.

    I feel that what surround sound did for audio, front projection does for your picture.

    The other thing about front projection is that you can always just shoot it on to a white wall for awhile, get an idea of what size picture you like in your viewing area and then get a screen to match. If you go with an RPTV you are going to be stuck with that size and you won't know if, for you, the size is too big until you get it into your house.

    Parker
     
  20. Mike Wladyka

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    i didn't see you question answered yet, so i will say a good place to start is projectorcentral.com

    they have some good articles, i suggest you read them, and also read the reviews for the highly recommended projectors. once you have been to projectorcentral then use the forums to research people's opinions on certain projectors.

    BTW i sit about 10' to 11' away from a 92" picture
     

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