The Killing: Season Two (1 Viewer)

[ScottH]

Originally Posted by TravisR /t/319673/the-killing-season-two/30#post_3934756
I'm glad about that because if it had been someone involved with the Indian casino or the opposing campaign, it would make alot of the investigation in the first season feel unnecessary in retrospect.

True, but also realistic because I'm sure these investigations go down many wrong paths along the way, and even circle back at times.

 

[Matt Hough]

I agree. I'll feel very let down if it turns out to be Jamie.

 

[joshEH]

I also like how Gwen gave a fat stack of cash to some random dude for making the video of Richmond "go viral." Apparently, TV show writers have no idea what "viral" means, or how it actually happens.
So, the circle has smallened (I'm sure it's a word), and it's either Jamie, Richmond, or Gwen that killed OUR Rosie. Or...someone tampered with the key-card. Anyway, let's say they've narrowed it down:

• Sucks if it's Jamie, because, well, it's Jamie. And it looks like it's not likely, since they are very suspicious of him in the previews for next week. We probably can rule him out.
• Sucks if it's Gwen, because she would have had to do it while Richmond left her to commit suicide. Doesn't make much sense. But neither does much else on this show.
• Amazing if it's Richmond, because they've spent the entire season building him into this wronged, dignified, deeply-sad dude. Would be a trip if it was him.

But, honestly, I can't imagine it being any one of them, really. So maybe someone took the heads-up that Lindo had the card, and switched its access privileges.
Lindo could have had the thing fingerprinted. Or asked security who the card belonged to, by the way. Right?
(...Lindo, Jesus.)

 

[TravisR]

True, but also realistic because I'm sure these investigations go down many wrong paths along the way, and even circle back at times.

You're definitely right. I guess maybe a better way to say it is that it would be realistic but not as dramatically satisfying if the killer is a more secondary character/guest star.

[*]Amazing if it's Richmond, because they've spent the entire season building him into this wronged, dignified, deeply-sad dude. Would be a trip if it was him.[/list]

I was thinking that too but I doubt they'd do that. The keycard still keeps him in the circle of suspects though. I'm guessing that the end of episode 12 will reveal at least to the audience who the killer is and episode 13 will have Linden and Holder trying to get evidence or capture the person. Overall, I'm of the mind that the mystery is always better than the resolution so I'm prepared to be kind of letdown when they reveal whodunit.

 

[joshEH]

I continue to love how the political-wonks continue to believe that a suicide attempt announced the night before a local election -- with a potential 20-30% voter turnout, most likely -- and so no real chance to gain any traction in the greater local public awareness, and zero in the national media, will be harsher political poison than the national-media murder that's been hanging around Richmond's neck for months, even when the former exonerates the latter.
"Dammit, Darren, let them think you killed her and pulled strings for the cover-up! Do you have any idea what a suicide attempt would do a political career!?"
(Also: "10,000 hits!")
I also love how Linden's big move with the recovered bloody key-card is to march right up to the Mayor's office for a big "AH-HA! J'ACCUSE!!" moment, then when that fizzles, to go checking doors at random, I guess. Instead of, you know, checking the security logs for who the card was actually assigned to by H.R. (oh, that's right, Veena hates H.R.).
If she was going to fuck the chain of evidence, why even bother with the gloves and baggie? I could tell you it and anything on it is already inadmissable, and I got my law degree from Dick Wolf.

 

[NeilO]

I'm surprised there hasn't been a lot of discussion about what was possibly the best episode of the series this week.
The investigation really went full circle back to the Richmond campaign.  I think I'll feel cheated if it's Jamie.  There have been too many indications given that he's not the killer.  I guess Gwen would make more sense but I don't think it's her because in that phone call Rosie said, "HE'S here."  My money is on the Mayor's aide.

I would guess the Mayor's aide as well. The way the Mayor and the casino chief were acting, he is definitely guilty of something related to the murder.

 

[NeilO]

Well, it was Jamie and it wasn't Jamie. I haven't thought how it all held up in the end. Brutal.

 

[TravisR]

As I've said, the mystery is always better than the answer but I was pretty satisified with how it all worked out. The flashbacks and Rosie's movie really made the episode/end of the story work though. I haven't seen any of the episodes since they first aired but it seems like everyone's motivations make sense with what came before. No can say that Jamie isn't evil enough to kill someone to keep his political plans secret and no one can say that Terry isn't stupid enough to kill a 'stranger' in a twisted effort to keep her man.
Overall, I'm pleased with the show, its pace and how it resolved its mystery.

 

[joshEH]

"I want you two to know you did great police-work."
Line of the Year.
They clearly didn't know who the killer was when they started this. Aunt Terry would have been in shambles during S1.
And why is Ames not in trouble for lying to the police?? Then again, forget Ames. How the hell does this not seem to be touching Richmond?
"You ran a great campaign, Darren. Getting shot and paralyzed. Suicide-attempt publicized. Your second-in-command murdered a young girl. Brilliant shit."

Holder: "Yo, Lindo, can he sees us?"
Linden: "No, Holder. This is a recording from THAT night."
Holder: "...What night?"

 

[NeilO]

Took a look at the wiki page for the Danish series and in the summary there (which doesn't give away any spoilers) it says

everything changes when a 19-year-old woman, Nanna Birk Larsen, disappears only to be found raped and brutally murdered. Along with her colleague, Detective Inspector Jan Meyer, Sarah is forced to head the investigation as it soon becomes clear that she and Meyer are chasing a very intelligent and dangerous murderer.

So, major changes here:
1) Rosie Larsen wasn't raped here
2) It sure didn't turn out to be a "very intelligent and dangerous murderer"

 

[Josh Dial]

Originally Posted by joshEH /t/319673/the-killing-season-two/30#post_3939527

Holder: "Yo, Lindo, can he sees us?"
Linden: "No, Holder. This is a recording from THAT night."
Holder: "...What night?"

HAH! Best of your "bonus dialogues," Josh. I look forward to them, next season.

 

[TravisR]

"You ran a great campaign, Darren. Getting shot and paralyzed. Suicide-attempt publicized. Your second-in-command murdered a young girl. Brilliant shit."

That's my biggest complaint about the show. For a TV show, it was very realistic except for Richmond's recovery. I'm no doctor but I think his recovery could almost literally be called 'miraculous'. That being said, if a dude gets shot and paralyzed and is back in the race in a week, he would get my vote. The guy must be tough as nails to do that.

 

[RichM]

I was OK with finale except the one issue of Ames not being found complicit in Rosie's murder. He was there and didn't do anything to stop or try and save her. How does he not get arrested?

 

[TravisR]

At the end of the episode, Holder says that they got the bad guy and Linden says "Who was that?" so I took that as her pointing out that Ames and the casino lady were walking on the crimes that they committed. Maybe I'm just a pessimist but I don't think Holder and Linden should even waste their time on arresting Ames when the lawyer that he could afford would easily paint Terry as a niece-murdering call girl who is trying to pin an accomplice charge on him as a way to get back at him for ending their relationship.

 

[Doug Smith]

Wasn't the ending like the old "Who" lyric - "meet the new boss, same as the old boss" - when Richmond had his first meeting in the Mayor's office, wasn't Ames and the Casino Manager both there? As the door slowly closes on Gwen Eaton, who obviously wasn't privy to what was going on.

 

[NeilO]

Wasn't the ending like the old "Who" lyric - "meet the new boss, same as the old boss" - when Richmond had his first meeting in the Mayor's office, wasn't Ames and the Casino Manager both there? As the door slowed closes on Gwen Eaton, who obviously wasn't privy to what was going on.

Yes, it did seem that Richmond was letting himself be corrupted after Jamie's "suicide by cop."
I am wondering about that taillight. Was this really the first time they saw that car?
Thinking back, it is better that someone form Richmond's campaign was involved as the story of the campaign car being stolen was quite weak, so that does make sense. For both Jamie and Terry, I don't know if all of their actions since the series began really make sense now with the knowledge of how they were involved in Rosie's death. I bet there are some sites out there that already have analyzed whatever contradictions these revelations hold.

 

[Matt Hough]

Yes, it was a satisfying solution to the mystery, I guess, but it left me less than stunned, and I had expected it to leave me as shattered as Linden seemed to be (which it didn't).

 

[Walter C]

Originally Posted by MattH. /t/319673/the-killing-season-two/30#post_3939728
Yes, it was a satisfying solution to the mystery, I guess, but it left me less than stunned, and I had expected it to leave me as shattered as Linden seemed to be (which it didn't).

That pretty much sums my feelings as well, as I was like "oh okay" when it was revealed that Teri was involved.

I did like the closing minutes of the episode, feeling like it was a series finale. Well, it would be, in the case of the Larsen family, as they watched the home movie of Rosie.

I wonder how it did in the ratings, and whether there will be a season 3.

 

[Matt Hough]

Originally Posted by Walter C /t/319673/the-killing-season-two/30#post_3939784

That pretty much sums my feelings as well, as I was like "oh okay" when it was revealed that Teri was involved.

I did like the closing minutes of the episode, feeling like it was a series finale. Well, it would be, in the case of the Larsen family, as they watched the home movie of Rosie.

I wonder how it did in the ratings, and whether there will be a season 3.

I've wondered about a third season myself. The fact that there was no renewal during the run of the series means the show is definitely on the bubble. It's no secret that ratings have been down for season two, and I suspect the finale's audience totals may determine the fate of the show. If there is a third season, I'll bet they solve the mystery by the end of the season!

 

[TravisR]

I know it was the season finale but I just assume that that was the end of the series. With the case being solved, the ratings are likely to drop even lower next season so I don't see it getting renewed. While I'd like to see the show continue, I'm also fine with that being the end. I loved Enos and Kinnaman's performances but they'll be getting movie work from now on.

If there is a third season, I'll bet they solve the mystery by the end of the season!

After the beating the show took last season, Linden and Holder might be solving a murder every episode.