Pierce Brosnan out as Bond? (UPDATE: Daniel Craig confirmed) (1 Viewer)

[James Phillips]

John Barry certainly made a very significant contribution to the arrangement of the James Bond theme. But there's barely anything in the parts he's supposed to be responsible for that's not just a jazzed-up version of sections of Monty Norman's original Bad Sign, Good Sign tune.

So, I think it was a bit disingenuous of Barry to have claimed that he wrote it himself.

I would equate his involvement with that of a music producer, rather than a composer, really.

 

[Jason Walstrom]

I just found this site on the court case and it's very interesting. Lawsuit

I think it's very interesting that Norman wanted full credit of the theme. It's really a mess with all the notes and witnesses and diary entries lol.

 

[Peter M Fitzgerald]

Though I enjoyed his Bond films well enough, I'm glad that Eon broomed Brosnan. I'm sure he could've pulled off at least one more entry in the series, but he was sort of "Syntheti-Bond" to me, cynically calculated to be all Bonds to all people (tough but sensitive, comedic yet taciturn), but lacking the gravity of both Connery's pre-DIAMONDS ARE FOREVER James Bond, and Lazenby's portrayal (despite his lack of acting experience) in OHMSS (the last "real" 007 movie, in my estimation), as well as Dalton's, though his two films were slightly marred by some residual goofiness left over from the Roger Moore years.

Though Clive Owen as 007 would've potentially been a perfect match, I'm all for Daniel Craig, who I think will bring James Bond back to a more Connery/Lazenby/Dalton mode. Ugly? Not especially. More like "rough-hewn", but that's a good thing. His acting chops are solid. Maybe it's just me, but in Craig's CASINO ROYALE promo picture, his eyes seem to resemble Robert Shaw's (circa 1963), which is also quite cool. I'm very much looking forward to CASINO ROYALE.

 

[Jason Walstrom]

???

 

[Jason Walstrom]

I would love for Michael Giacchino to get a crack at the Bond Score. I loved his Barryesque Incredibles soundtrack.

 

[Peter M Fitzgerald]

Yeah, I agree, a Michael Giacchino score would be outstanding. I hope David Arnold, if he's still got a lock on scoring CASINO ROYALE, sheds his prediliction for techno, and delivers a lush, orchestral jazz score.

 

[Adam Lenhardt]

IMDB has Giacchino on credit for Casino Royale. Whether that's studio imput or just some overzealous fan, I'm not sure...

 

[Zack Gibbs]

I'm sure the techno influences in Arnold's scores are due to the producers request, after all he has written many traditional orchestral scores as well. His first Bond score for TND is still a fan favorite, and it seems the makers just want him to repeat it again and again.

 

[Chris Stainton]

Interesting. This actually is one of my favorite scores. In fact "Flight Into Space" is arguably my very favorite piece in a Bond film.

 

[rich_d]

Flight into Space is terrific - it matches the scene so well. I think Barry has done some good work with space scenes as I would say that YOLT's Capsule In Space is also excellent.

 

[Jason Adams]

Aw come on...you know better to trust IMDB so early into a production! I highly doubt that EON would hire him.

 

[Jason Walstrom]

NOTE: GEOFF LEONARD IS CONSIDERED THE WORLD' LEADING EXPERT ON JOHN BARRY'S MUSIC. HE IS THE AUTHOR OF THE BIOGRAPHY: JOHN BARRY A LIFE IN MUSIC. HE IS THE LINER NOTE AUTHOR OF A GREAT MANY BARRY CD RELEASES. GEOFF WAS PRESENT IN THE COURT ROOM DURING THE ENTIRE TRIAL SITTING NEXT TO LAURIE BARRY HOLDING HER HAND. HE WRITES:
IMDB




He doesn't want to sue - he was a reluctant witness in the Sunday Times
case. What he doesn't like is Norman's constant references to *his*
theme. He should have sat back and taken the money and kept quiet. I
suspect this will all blow up again next month when Norman releases his
new CD.

Bugger off, Monty!!

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[Jason Adams]

Here's a bit of a Casino Royale plot spoiler:

http://commanderbond.net/Public/Stories/2967-1.shtml


As CBn revealed last month, gambling will remain central to the Casino Royale plotline, but instead of Baccarat, the game will be poker. Now CBn has another plot revelation to share with those who are not spoiler sensitive.
Daniel Craig is James Bond

Daniel Craig as 007 battles terrorism in Casino Royale

As in the novel, money won and lost at the gambling tables will have deadly implications for the Western world. In the novel the villain Le Chiffre is gambling with funds spearheaded for covert Russian Soviet spy activities via SMERSH. But in the film version, Le Chiffre's winnings will be used to fund a very contemporary threat...

TERRORISM.

Yes, James Bond joins the "war on terror" in Casino Royale.

However, the terror organizing will not be Al Qaeda, nor will any real-world country be implicated. Le Chiffre will be a part of a new SMERSH/SPECTRE-like terror organization backed by a fictitious country. This new terror organization may become a recurring threat in future James Bond films (as revealed at last Friday's press conference, Purvis and Wade are already at work on Bond 22).



And a question...Should this thread should be renamed, or a new one started for Casino Royale?

 

[Jake Yenor]

I like the idea. Bond was Cold War fun and they have been struggling with the franchise since the end of the cold war. A new core enemy group for the franchise could make things interesting.

 

[Nelson Au]

Yet the central focus of the card game in the book
is altered.

 

[Jake Yenor]

It is but as a film it needed more. A direct port of the novel to a film would be very action free and probably bore the people unlike us who know the story of Casion Royale and what to expect.

 

[MatthewLouwrens]

Question for those that know the book: Is the actual card game really that important as a plot point? Sure, it's a change from the book, but is the fact that it's baccarat (and not poker) actually significant? Perhaps they just feel people are familiar with poker, but not baccarat. I certainly know that I could at least grasp what is happening in a poker game, but I would have no idea about baccarat.

 

[Beau]

 

[JeremyErwin]

The thing about baccarat
is besides the appeal of the game to the suave
and sophisticated
is that traditionally, side bets
from persons not involved in the game
are more important than the game itself.

 

[MatthewLouwrens]

So it's more a case of style and what "feels" more like Bond that concerns people. OK, I can see that.

Jeremy - 5 spoiler boxes in one sentence! Impressive effort.