So, I read up on each receiver for a week or so and ended up ordering the Panasonic XR57 online since it was under $290 new and I couldn't find the Onkyo for less than $400 new. However, now I see that I can get a refurb Onkyo 604 from an authorized dealer online for less than $320. I am now torn as to what I should do so I figured I'd get some opinions. I have a set of the Insignia NS-B2111 speakers along with my sub as my 6.1 setup. Right now I'm using the Xbox 360 addon for my HD DVDs, and will be buying a PS3 in a month or 2 for Blu Ray. I have one of the Sony Grand Wega 4 RP LCD sets, so I only have 1 HDMI input on the back, so the XR57 only having 1 HDMI input isn't a huge problem for me since the PS3 will be my only HDMI device right now anyway. I can always buy an HDMI switch if I need to anyway. My main issue is that my speakers seemed like they had more presence, for lack of a better word, with my old Pioneer 5.1 receiver than they do with this new Panasonic one. Would the Onkyo give me a fuller sound from these speakers, or will the receivers both sound about the same? I know the Panasonic is supposed to be "bright", but I wasn't sure if the change in tonal quality I'm hearing is just the receiver, or if my speakers are now the weak link in my HT chain and a better reciever than my last one is bringing this to light. Will the Onkyo give better sound quality, or should I just stick with the Panasonic, which seems like a great receiver from everything I read. And I would also have to eat shipping cost on sending the Panasonic back to the online retailer, as well as eating new shipping to get the Onkyo, so I'm looking at about a $50 cost difference once it's all said and done. Also, is the bonus of the Panasonic being new and the Onkyo being refurbed something to be concerned with? I read the Onkyos can run hot, so I wasn't sure if a refurb would be a good idea. Thanks for all the upcoming advice.