Patrick TX
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Well, I have had a chance to do some initial comparisons between these 2 units. First let me say I'm not a fanboy of either company. Both companys make some damn good low cost DVD players. I currently have both players feeding a progressive signal directly into an uncalibrated '02 Mitsubishi WS-55511 HDTV. The TV has around 80 hours on it, so picture quality will surely improve. I will post some early impressions on both units.
Build quality
The JVC gets my nod here. The Panny has a cheap overall feel to it. The carousel drawer is not aligned properly. The JVC has nice feet (the same as the panny, yet oddly enough the same kind of smoky mirror faceplate. The JVC has a black drawer, unlike the silver drawer pictured on the net.
Both units are available in black or silver. Must be the same company, LOL. No visible defects on the JVC. No operational defects on either. The JVC has a large blue dot matrix display than can be easily viewed from 8-10 feet away. The Panny has a SMALL box that has plain LED information. One has to be right on it to read it.
Remote
No contest. The remote on the JVC is light years better than the Panasonic. Simply put, the Panny has the crappiest remote that has ever graced my Home Theater. The JVC has glow in the dark buttons, and will control multibrand TV's as well. Progressive scanning can be activated via remote as well. The buttons are nicely spaced, and the unit is nicely rounded. The JVC also came with a Component Video cable, which was a surprise.
Inputs
No contest. The JVC has optical AND coax digital inputs, as well as 5.1 inputs for DVD-Audio. They are all gold plated. The JVC also has an AV Link jack for communicating with other JVC gear.
The Panasonic has only optical & 5.1 digital outs, no gold plating. NO COAX.
Size
The JVC is a little shorter than the Panasonic, by a 1/4". It is MUCH more shallow, by a whopping 5.5". The Panny's front feet barely fit inside my entertainment center. This caused it to protrude out farther than the rest of my equipment. This is not acceptable. My 400 CD is the same size nearly! This size issue may cause major problems for those seeking this player. Be sure to factor in the power cord & cabling adding another 1" nearly.
Now to the good stuff, picture quality!
Progressive Scan Video
I watched snippets of Monsters Inc, Toy Story, & Ice Age, & AOTC on both players. The Panasonic has a clearer, more RAZOR SHARP picture on this sort of material (except AOTC, where I saw no difference). The JVC looked great as well. It was more sharp on the Panasonic. Neither player exhibited the dreaded "Chroma Bug" on the Toy Story menu, or the Fifth Element button. The Panasonic was a Ferrari on these Video based DVD's, the JVC was a mere Porsche.
Progressive Scan Film
I was hard pressed to see any difference watching film based DVD's on both machines. LOTR EE looked flat out beautiful on both players. I also watched portions of The Fifth Element, Unforgiven SE (DARK scenes), & Diana Krall Live in Paris. I found the "lighter" setting was needed on the Panny, especially watching Unforgiven. I would bet most people wuld have one hell of a time picking which player was which in a blind test.
Interlaced performance
IMO, neither player impressed in this area. My Sony DVP-S7700 killed them both. I will never go back to interlaced after seeing these 2 players in action. I would say it was a push.
Audio
My ear can tell no difference on either player, DTS or DD 5.1. I'm using my Receiver to decode. As far as a CD sound is concerned, I havent listened yet.
DVD-Audio
I am going to go get one today hopefully. I DO notice that both units offer BASS MANAGEMENT for DVD-Audio. NICE. Size, level, delay, and test tone on both. The JVC will scroll the bitstream onscreen if desired, not sure on the Panny.
Features
JVC wins here, no contest. It has a 14 step zoom on the remote, AND the zoom icon disappears in a couple of seconds. The Panny simply wont zoom/scale. The RP91 does, and that's it. I was watching LOTR EE in 2:35 and hitting the zoom button made the bars go away. Some may call this heresy, as the director wanted it to look this way. I want to be able to control this function! My TV will not scale/zoom a progreesive signal.
The JVC also has settings for Gamma and a few others. JVC also has a bookmark feature (NICE), and will play JPEG files on CD. This is neat for doing slide shows of the kids from my digital camera!
The verdict?
JVC for Me. Most of the movies I watch are film based, and I simply could not live with the shortcomings of the Panasonic. The JVC was also $10 less after the Panny's $30 rebate, with 2 free DVD's by mail. The carousel was slow to load, and difficult to skip between discs. It wanted to load & read each disc instead of skipping it like most carousels do. In all fairness, a RP82 would have given the JVC a better run for the $. I am elated with the JVC so far!
Here is a comparison between the Panasonic & the JVC.
Panasonic
http://www.prodcat.panasonic.com/sho...goryId=%202977
JVC
http://www.jvc.com/product.jsp?model...L026936&page=2
My Equipment
Receiver - Yamaha RX-V1
HDTV - Mitsubishi WS-55511
Main Speakers - B&W CDM 9NT's
Center Speaker - B&W CDM CNT
Surrounds - B&W LM1's
Subwoofer - SVS 2531 PC+
Progressive Scan DVD - JVC XV-SA600BK
Progressive Scan DVD carousel - Panasonic CP-72K
Interlaced DVD - Sony DVP-S7700
400 CD/MP3 Jukebox - Sony CDP-CX455
Sony PS-2
Scientific Atlanta Explorer 8000 PVR
Build quality
The JVC gets my nod here. The Panny has a cheap overall feel to it. The carousel drawer is not aligned properly. The JVC has nice feet (the same as the panny, yet oddly enough the same kind of smoky mirror faceplate. The JVC has a black drawer, unlike the silver drawer pictured on the net.
Both units are available in black or silver. Must be the same company, LOL. No visible defects on the JVC. No operational defects on either. The JVC has a large blue dot matrix display than can be easily viewed from 8-10 feet away. The Panny has a SMALL box that has plain LED information. One has to be right on it to read it.
Remote
No contest. The remote on the JVC is light years better than the Panasonic. Simply put, the Panny has the crappiest remote that has ever graced my Home Theater. The JVC has glow in the dark buttons, and will control multibrand TV's as well. Progressive scanning can be activated via remote as well. The buttons are nicely spaced, and the unit is nicely rounded. The JVC also came with a Component Video cable, which was a surprise.
Inputs
No contest. The JVC has optical AND coax digital inputs, as well as 5.1 inputs for DVD-Audio. They are all gold plated. The JVC also has an AV Link jack for communicating with other JVC gear.
The Panasonic has only optical & 5.1 digital outs, no gold plating. NO COAX.
Size
The JVC is a little shorter than the Panasonic, by a 1/4". It is MUCH more shallow, by a whopping 5.5". The Panny's front feet barely fit inside my entertainment center. This caused it to protrude out farther than the rest of my equipment. This is not acceptable. My 400 CD is the same size nearly! This size issue may cause major problems for those seeking this player. Be sure to factor in the power cord & cabling adding another 1" nearly.
Now to the good stuff, picture quality!
Progressive Scan Video
I watched snippets of Monsters Inc, Toy Story, & Ice Age, & AOTC on both players. The Panasonic has a clearer, more RAZOR SHARP picture on this sort of material (except AOTC, where I saw no difference). The JVC looked great as well. It was more sharp on the Panasonic. Neither player exhibited the dreaded "Chroma Bug" on the Toy Story menu, or the Fifth Element button. The Panasonic was a Ferrari on these Video based DVD's, the JVC was a mere Porsche.
Progressive Scan Film
I was hard pressed to see any difference watching film based DVD's on both machines. LOTR EE looked flat out beautiful on both players. I also watched portions of The Fifth Element, Unforgiven SE (DARK scenes), & Diana Krall Live in Paris. I found the "lighter" setting was needed on the Panny, especially watching Unforgiven. I would bet most people wuld have one hell of a time picking which player was which in a blind test.
Interlaced performance
IMO, neither player impressed in this area. My Sony DVP-S7700 killed them both. I will never go back to interlaced after seeing these 2 players in action. I would say it was a push.
Audio
My ear can tell no difference on either player, DTS or DD 5.1. I'm using my Receiver to decode. As far as a CD sound is concerned, I havent listened yet.
DVD-Audio
I am going to go get one today hopefully. I DO notice that both units offer BASS MANAGEMENT for DVD-Audio. NICE. Size, level, delay, and test tone on both. The JVC will scroll the bitstream onscreen if desired, not sure on the Panny.
Features
JVC wins here, no contest. It has a 14 step zoom on the remote, AND the zoom icon disappears in a couple of seconds. The Panny simply wont zoom/scale. The RP91 does, and that's it. I was watching LOTR EE in 2:35 and hitting the zoom button made the bars go away. Some may call this heresy, as the director wanted it to look this way. I want to be able to control this function! My TV will not scale/zoom a progreesive signal.
The JVC also has settings for Gamma and a few others. JVC also has a bookmark feature (NICE), and will play JPEG files on CD. This is neat for doing slide shows of the kids from my digital camera!
The verdict?
JVC for Me. Most of the movies I watch are film based, and I simply could not live with the shortcomings of the Panasonic. The JVC was also $10 less after the Panny's $30 rebate, with 2 free DVD's by mail. The carousel was slow to load, and difficult to skip between discs. It wanted to load & read each disc instead of skipping it like most carousels do. In all fairness, a RP82 would have given the JVC a better run for the $. I am elated with the JVC so far!
Here is a comparison between the Panasonic & the JVC.
Panasonic
http://www.prodcat.panasonic.com/sho...goryId=%202977
JVC
http://www.jvc.com/product.jsp?model...L026936&page=2
My Equipment
Receiver - Yamaha RX-V1
HDTV - Mitsubishi WS-55511
Main Speakers - B&W CDM 9NT's
Center Speaker - B&W CDM CNT
Surrounds - B&W LM1's
Subwoofer - SVS 2531 PC+
Progressive Scan DVD - JVC XV-SA600BK
Progressive Scan DVD carousel - Panasonic CP-72K
Interlaced DVD - Sony DVP-S7700
400 CD/MP3 Jukebox - Sony CDP-CX455
Sony PS-2
Scientific Atlanta Explorer 8000 PVR