Is it quality artistic entertainment or simply a toy?

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  1. John Beavers

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    When you buy a DVD you are getting quality entertainment, whose content is artistically legitimized at events like the Academy Awards. When you buy a video game you are in essence buying a toy. Which is usually purchased by overworked and time challenged parents who want their kids entertained and out of their hair for awhile.
    I tell ya, video games don't get no respect. And should they? Are they as viable as the movies as an artistic medium deserving of respect? Is driving around a race track or shooting aliens worthy of artistic notice? Are there games so well portrayed and with dialogue worthy of a movie (not really saying much there based on the action movies I've seen of late [​IMG], that could challenge the label of "toy", and take video game content into the category of a worthy artistic experience?
     
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    Children's toys can still be considered pieces of art. Action figures are toys, yet people pay a lot of money for the figures from games like MGS2.

    I would say its a mix based on the developer. Some games are crap, some are based on something else so aren't artistic, while others are filled with art (mainly RPGs).
     
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    I would seriously disagree, IF I correctly understand your post. Games are fast becoming works of art and things of beauty. AND most importantly, games are overtaking the movie industry financially. They were at around 8 billion a piece and games are surpassing movies.
     
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    I'll say this, when video games first hit the home market back in the late 70's, they're wasn't much artistic merit to them at all, basically they were just a series of simple geometric shapes bouncing around the screen accompanied by lame sound effects and not much else.
    However, games have come a loooooongggg way from those days, and can now seriously be considered an artistic medium. A lot of care and a WHOLE LOT of work goes into producing games now, by people who are just as dedicated to their job and their work as Hollywood is.
    Look at games like Gran Turismo 3 A-Spec and tell me it can't be considered artistic.
    Are games toys? Well, if you want to get technical, speakers, recievers, and dvd players can be considered toys, for adults. One thing is certain, home gaming is not just childs play anymore.
     
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    I consider true art as something that is capable of connecting with and moving people on an emotional level.

    Music, Movies, paintings, photographs all seem to fit that description.

    Not so sure about videogames.
     
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    You can't say games in general are artistic, but there are games that are artistic.
     
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    ICO is like Monet in interactive form. Its the most beautiful and amazing looking game I have EVER played.

    The most amazing part of that game is either the colors being so washed out or the Dark Queen's hair.
     
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    I can agree with the comment on ICO Morgan. Though personally I did not care much for ICO, in terms of artistic design and the style of graphics it is a truly magnificent game to behold. I may have to give it another chance soon. Maybe it will click with me then. (admittedly I did have about 3 other games I was much more into at the time that I played ICO)

    Another game that I think should be considered in the top echelon of video game masterpieces is REZ. There has just not been a game made like this. Graphically and aurally is never ceases ot amaze.
     
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    In the music/rhythm idea, Frequency also looks really good. Its not as artistic as other games, but the flashy colors and the way the whole game comes together is very artistic.

    Romier-

    Did you get to see the Dark Queen in ICO? Look at her hair and dress, its amazing.
     
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    Making games is an art. I will agree with that.

    Some games are more artistic than others. Some movies are not artistic, but the process in making them can be considered such. Same thing with games.

    Pong was not exactly an artistic game, though it did require some artistry to come up with the concept, the design, etc. FFX has more artistry than Pong, though both are pieces of art.
     

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