Press Release Criterion Press Release: Summertime (1955) (Blu-ray) (1 Viewer)

[RolandL]

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[Robert Crawford]

Criterion Channel. They've updated their stream to the new master.

Looks great if it was in 1.66 or 1.85.

 

[roxy1927]

Why in the criterion do they look as if they're in shadows? It seems to have more than just screen ratio problems.

 

[Mark B]

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X Y is off on the RAN

 

[RICK BOND]

The Criterion is Dark ! The RAN looks much Brighter and Better to me. Why is that ??

 

[darkrock17]

What does RAN mean?

 

[Konstantinos]

What does RAN mean?

I think it's the company from Japan that had released that bluray.

 

[Paul Penna]

What does RAN mean?

For some reason it's the way DVD Beaver identifies the 2012 Paramount Home Entertainment Japanese Blu-ray in their review. HTF thread on it here.

 

[Lord Dalek]

Summertime was largely shot in natural light. The new Criterion more accurately reflects that. The "RAN" (typical Tooze gibberish), which btw is the older transfer still currently on HBO Max, appears to be contrast boosted.

 

[roxy1927]

Well the colors are richer in the Criterion. But it would be nice to find more of a middle ground. Though I saw it many years ago in 35 MM I don't remember it being that dark. In fact Venice seemed very sunny to me. When I finally did go to the city I thought that Lean had to have filmed most of his shots at midday as the streets and lanes are narrow and the direct sunlight I saw in much of the film doesn't last very long.

 

[Robert Crawford]

Well the colors are richer in the Criterion. But it would be nice to find more of a middle ground. Though I saw it many years ago in 35 MM I don't remember it being that dark. In fact Venice seemed very sunny to me. When I finally did go to the city I thought that Lean had to have filmed most of his shots at midday as the streets and lanes are narrow and the direct sunlight I saw in much of the film doesn't last very long.

Are you basing your opinion about the Criterion Blu-ray on those screenshots?

 

[roxy1927]

Yes. Are those screenshots incorrect? I just received The Red Shoes in 4k despite reading it was on the dark side compared to the bluray because the colors are richer. I was thinking perhaps the same is true of Summertime. I hope to watch Shoes tonight.

 

[Robert Crawford]

Yes. Are those screenshots incorrect? I just received The Red Shoes in 4k despite reading it was on the dark side compared to the bluray because the colors are richer. I was thinking perhaps the same is true of Summertime. I hope to watch Shoes tonight.

I don't know, but what wondering what you based your stated opinion on. I watched the Criterion Channel stream and it didn't appear dark to me.

 

[RolandL]

Screen shots from dvdbeaver.com

 

[Robert Crawford]

Screen shots from dvdbeaver.com

Are you serious posting those here.

 

[ahollis]

I never trust screenshots. I trust the moving image, for I have been fooled many times.

 

[RolandL]

Are you serious posting those here.

Sorry! I guess I should have found a streaming version, no a Blu-ray version, no a 4K version, a whatever version. No matter someone will always be offended.

 

[Robert Crawford]

Sorry! I guess I should have found a streaming version, no a Blu-ray version, no a 4K version, a whatever version. No matter someone will always be offended.

I'm not offended, but DVDBeaver screenshots are not respected by many HTF members.

 

[RolandL]

I'm not offended, but DVDBeaver screenshots are not respected by many HTF members.

Man, I must be having a bad posting day. I was making a joke about HTF members being so picky about comparisons of versions of Blu-ray vs DVD vs 4K vs 2K streaming vs 4K steaming vs 1080p TV vs 4K TV vs 2k Projector vs 4k Projector vs what they saw at a movie theatre in 1957. Um, that's a joke also.

 

[Thomas T]

I never trust screenshots. I trust the moving image, for I have been fooled many times.

Yes. Indeed, I've seen terrible looking transfers that look quite decent in a screenshot as well as good transfers that look less than stellar in a screenshot. We're watching motion pictures not screenshots and it's the moving image that's to be trusted.