Bob Dylan vs. Hootie & The Blowfish: What happened?

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  1. Greg_Y

    Greg_Y Screenwriter

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    I'm sure someone out there can explain this to me. In 1994, the Hootie & The Blowfish album Cracked Rear View came out of nowhere with a few hit songs for the band. One of those hits was "Only Wanna Be With You". You may remember the video which was shown on VH1 approximately every 7 minutes.

    OK, now to the point. The lyrics to "Only Wanna Be With You" included this:

     
  2. Tom Ryan

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    I never heard about such a case....but are you listening to "Itchy Fingers", or "Sticky Fingers" Greg?

    -Tom
     
  3. Vince Maskeeper

    Vince Maskeeper Lead Actor

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    Greg,

    I'm not a hootie fan, but that seems like a rather obvious allusion and direct quote of the dylan song rather than "stolen lyrics". I'm 100% positive this isn't a stolen lyric, or "dumb" as you suggest- rather they are obviously talking about the Dylan song and quoting from it in the context of their song.

    The song names Dylan by name in the opening line, and then says "I said, "that line is great" you asked me what it meant by:" and proceeds to QUOTE from the line of the song in question. I wouldn't imagine Hootie and his Fish friends were trying to pass the lyric off as their own- and made no hesitation to make direct ref to Dylan in the preceeding lines.

    It's like you're telling a story and say "Have you every heard that song that goes 'all in all, were just another brick in the wall'?"-- you didn't claim the line was yours. The song lyrics you quoted from Hootie seem to be recounting a time talking about thosee specific Dylan lines with someone else.

    Literature makes direct and indirect allusions to other literature, you see the same in art, even movies and TV. Seems natural that you'd see it in music.

    I find it suprising and petty that Dylan would sue over such a small piece of lyrics- especially when it was made in such a way as to pay honor to Dylan. Granted, Hootie sucked balls, so maybe Dylan was offended more at who made the allusion rather than the fact that it was made ("I inpired what? Those guys suck, I should sue.")

    I searched the net and could find no real ref to this, other than second hand mentions in other articles. I wonder if it is a quasi-urban legend.

    Here's another example from the song "you were right" by built to spill:

     
  4. Greg_Y

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  5. Andy Anderson

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    Not that I'm a Hootie fan or anything, *shudder* but I've sung that song a couple of times in karaoke. The next line is "..ain't Bobby so cool.." Agreeing with Vince--I don't think it's a rip-off of any kind, I think it's a bit of an homage.

    Andy

    NP: Yams from Outer Space "Carpet Fiber"
     
  6. Rich Malloy

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    I've never heard anything about a lawsuit, and I doubt one would be warranted for such a quotation, but I remember well the first time I listened to the lyrics of that song (as opposed to simply enduring it).

    Burned my ass, let me tell ya. The idea that some kinda lame-ass poseurs would attempt to adorn their fratrock muzak with lyrics from one of Dylan's greatest songs is simply a travesty. Not an actionable travesty, but a travesty nonetheless.

    From the New York Sessions version of "Idiot Wind":

    I been double-crossed too much,

    At times I think I've almost lost my mind

    Lady-killers load ice on me behind my back,


    While imitators steal me blind

    You close your eyes and part your lips,

    And slip your fingers from your glove

    You can have the best there is,

    But it's gonna cost you all your love...

    You won't get it for money.

    Idiot wind, blowing like a sock around my skull,

    From the Grand Coulee Dam to the capitol.

    Idiot wind, blowing every time you hear Hootie,

    He's an idiot, babe.

    It's a wonder that he still knows how to steal.
     
  7. Vince Maskeeper

    Vince Maskeeper Lead Actor

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    LOL!
    Funny. I think the popularity of Hootie proves, without a doubt, the people will buy whatever they're sold. Heck, I even heard one guy argue against being called a racist by claiming he liked Hootie and the Blowfish.
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    -Vince
    np: Sleater-Kinney "All hands on the bad one"
     
  8. Greg_Y

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    Well I haven't found any good information yet. I don't imagine I'm going to find details on an out-of-court settlement on the web. But I did find this at a number of different sites:

     

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