Blu-ray Review A Few Words About A few words about...™ - Is Paris Burning? -- in Blu-ray (3 Viewers)

[JPCinema]

Is this still accurate? This was on the KINO announcement. Is it mentioned anywhere on the cover of the blu ray?
• "Digitally Restored from a 4K scan of the 35mm Original Camera Negative by Paramount Pictures in Association with American Zoetrope and Francis Ford Coppola"
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[Ignacio]

I saw some years ago a broadcast transfer of this movie and it was not only in stereo, but it also had very distinct directionalized dialogue, I suppose they could do that since most of the movie was dubbed in post.

 

[Alan Tully]

The Paramount + version is stereo as was the DVD so there’s definitely something wrong here. I’m not buying it if it’s mono.

Ah, it's Taras Bulba (1962) all over again. The Kino release was mono, but the German Koch release was in very good stereo (the English track). Ha, false alarm...see below.

 

[jremy7]

Just checked my Kino Lorber BD disc: English dub is stereo, French dub is mono.

 

[Douglas R]

Just checked my Kino Lorber BD disc: English dub is stereo, French dub is mono.

That would be correct. I don’t think there ever was a French stereo track. Safe to order now!

 

[Robert Harris]

Is this still accurate? This was on the KINO announcement. Is it mentioned anywhere on the cover of the blu ray?
• "Digitally Restored from a 4K scan of the 35mm Original Camera Negative by Paramount Pictures in Association with American Zoetrope and Francis Ford Coppola"
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Accurate. A beautiful job by all involved.

 

[mark brown]

Thanks for clearing this up.

 

[Robert Crawford]

Just checked my Kino Lorber BD disc: English dub is stereo, French dub is mono.

RAH,

Can you edit your initial post before more people cancel their orders?

 

[Christian D66]

Lest deciphering the WIKI bio and extensive filmography seems tangential, Paul is referring to the fact that Gert Frobe’s voice was not used in Goldfinger, as his English was not sufficient. Goldfinger’s lines were all overdubbed by Michael Collins.

Don’t quote me, but If memory serves, Frobe didn’t even mouth the English. He spoke German which was overdubbed in post - commonly done in that time period especially in European productions with international casts.

He's clearly saying the lines such as "I expect you to die!"

 

[Robert Harris]

RAH,

Can you edit your initial post before more people cancel their orders?

The Blu-ray is confirmed as 5.1 stereo, but (at least on my system) strangely defaults to track 1, which is 2-channel monaural. The track needs to be switched to 2.

 

[Robert Crawford]

I’m getting 2-channel. I’ll check later today. I believe packaging also notes mono.

Then we have a disagreement regarding what audio options are available on this upcoming BD release.

 

[John Hermes]

From DVDBeaver review it sounds like there is indeed a 5.1 track. He gives the bitrate. etc. in his review.

Audio

DTS-HD Master Audio English 1606 kbps 2.0 / 48 kHz / 1606 kbps / 24-bit (DTS Core: 2.0 / 48 kHz / 1509 kbps / 24-bit) DTS-HD Master Audio English 2321 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 2321 kbps / 24-bit (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 1509 kbps / 24-bit) DTS-HD Master Audio French 1561 kbps 2.0 / 48 kHz / 1561 kbps / 16-bit (DTS Core: 2.0 / 48 kHz / 1509 kbps / 16-bit) Commentary: Dolby Digital Audio English 192 kbps 2.0 / 48 kHz / 192 kbps

 

[Robert Harris]

From DVDBeaver review it sounds like there is indeed a 5.1 track. He gives the bitrate. etc. in his review.

Audio

DTS-HD Master Audio English 1606 kbps 2.0 / 48 kHz / 1606 kbps / 24-bit (DTS Core: 2.0 / 48 kHz / 1509 kbps / 24-bit) DTS-HD Master Audio English 2321 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 2321 kbps / 24-bit (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 1509 kbps / 24-bit) DTS-HD Master Audio French 1561 kbps 2.0 / 48 kHz / 1561 kbps / 16-bit (DTS Core: 2.0 / 48 kHz / 1509 kbps / 16-bit) Commentary: Dolby Digital Audio English 192 kbps 2.0 / 48 kHz / 192 kbps

In second position. I consider that as an authoring error.

 

[Patrick McCart]

Kino has put out a lot of discs lately with the 2.0 as the first and a 5.1 remix as second, so might just be habit.

 

[Robert Harris]

Kino has put out a lot of discs lately with the 2.0 as the first and a 5.1 remix as second, so might just be habit.

Not a good habit.

 

[Malcolm R]

Disney used to do that, their discs would default to regular Stereo 2.0 rather than 5.1 which had to be specifically selected in the audio options. Presumably because they thought most people would be watching with TV speakers rather than a full surround system.

 

[RolandL]

I saw some years ago a broadcast transfer of this movie and it was not only in stereo, but it also had very distinct directionalized dialogue, I suppose they could do that since most of the movie was dubbed in post.

If the Blu-ray has directional dialogue, I would be interested.

 

[John Skoda]

In second position. I consider that as an authoring error.

Yes. Paramount's old DVD has three audio tracks: English 5.1 surround, English Dolby Surround, and French Mono. The disc defaults to the 5.1.

 

[JoshZ]

Disney used to do that, their discs would default to regular Stereo 2.0 rather than 5.1 which had to be specifically selected in the audio options.

Arrow frequently does this as well.

When William Friedkin died last week, I gave the Arrow Blu-ray of Cruising a spin. The case specifically boasts "Newly remastered 5.1 DTS-HD Master Audio supervised by William Friedkin," yet the disc itself defaults to a PCM 2.0 track. and you have to manually select the other option.

 

[Robert Crawford]

Out of habit, I always manually select my audio option before playing the movie.