A Few Words About A few words about...™ Deliverance (40th Anniversary) -- in Blu-ray

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  1. Robert Harris

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    In the not to distant past I commented in regard to John Boorman's magnificent Deliverance -- here:

    http://www.hometheaterforum.com/t/261282/a-few-words-about-deliverance-in-bd-hd

    History is an interesting thing, and its cycles seem never-ending.

    While special Anniversary re-issues may seem to be a recent idea, book publishers have been doing it for a while.

    Theatrical re-issues of motion pictures on a cyclical basis seem to have occurred most with Disney animated classics, and M-G-M's re-issues of The Wizard of Oz and GWTW -- every seven years.

    But in the world of home video, it's the 35th and 40th Anniversaries, led with a battle cry by Warner Home Video (and taking their lead from the Edison wax cylinder re-issues in the last century) that have become special, and dear to the hearts of many home video aficionados.

    With that in mind, we welcome the 40th Anniversary Book Edition of John Boorman's Deliverance.

    In 2007 we received the HD and Blu-ray variants of the film, in a simple, yet elegant, plastic case. That version is currently available on Amazon for under $10.

    For 2012 we have the new book release, and it's nicely done.

    The main addition, to keep up with technology, is uncompressed audio. The image appears to be the same as the earlier release, which was fine. On top of that there is a new half hour discussion between the four leads, which is both entertaining and insightful.

    If you have the original release, I doubt that the additions will be worth the cost, but if you don't, and will be able to hear the difference between the original compressed audio and the new uncompressed, then here's your chance for an upgrade.

    A beautifully rendered Blu-ray of an important and still entertaining film, that absolutely stands the test of time.

    One question that I'm certain will come up is whether a new 4k image harvest could yield a superior image, and I believe that it could. It would also make grain rise slightly. As it is, the image appears very close to what it would have looked like on dye transfer prints, and by that I refer to the slightly more velvety grain structure.

    Highly Recommended.

    RAH
     
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    In reference to the uncompressed audio, is it a "new" 5.1 mix, or the original mono?
     
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    ok Robert this is my WB question... they didn't cut out that burned in WB logo on the film did they? I can't imagine they would be able to the way it is incorperated into the movie. I guess it is nice we get upgraded HD audio.

    Still hoping they will issue a Bullitt Digibook and upgrade the audio also.
     
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    And minus the nasty jump cut "correction" in the car chase.
     
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    Maybe things are looking up for uncompressed audio on Blade Runner later this year.
     
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    Fingers (and toes) crossed for all of the above!
     
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    I do not have the same affection for the initial Blu release of this film as Mr. Harris has. I find the colors muddy -- olive green foliage, brownish, pasty skin tones. I saw DELIVERANCE film numerous times theatrically, and the Blu-ray was not a good representation of it in terms of color fidelity. That is why I was hoping this 40th Anniversary release was going to include a newly-mastered image.
    Guess I'll just hang on the to the inferior original.
     
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    Why is the title credit different on the blu ray than the dvd? Which is correct?
     
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    Was this because of the commnet I made or has it been confirmed as being different? (I just hate it when WB's replaces one of their old logos.. I doubt it happened to Deliverance only because the logo is burned into the film with audio from the film If I recall correctly? It is intact on the first BLU release just hoping it is the same for the new digibook release. I hate that WB's replaced it for the BLU for All the President's Men.
     
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    And The Exorcist. And .... and .... and ....
     
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    I notcied that too, for whatever reason the BD has some pretty cheap looking digital credits. I'm not sure what was wrong with the original optically printed credits that they felt the need to do this.
     
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    The film played originally in 70mm 6-track stereo in at least 2 theatres, he Cinerama Dome in Hollywood and the Cinerama Theatre in San Diego (although this could have been from 1 print - the SD run didn't begin until the day after the Dome's long engagement closed).
     
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    It was 70mm at the Dome? That's where I saw it, and I remember to this day how shaken I was the rest of the evening. What a powerful film.
     
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    Negatives were routinely over-worked, and many damaged striking blow-ups. Most entities tired to keep 70s down to minimum, moving them in the distribution pattern. Zhivago, since it had a wide release (wide for mid-'60s) was one of the more abused. It wasn't until the mid-1980s that we had a quality duping stock, allowing safe creation of 70s from dupes. The problem with some of those, however, was that dupes were improperly made.

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    Which film has these re-done credits on the Blu-ray?
     
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    From DVDBeaver, I think Eric is referring to this:
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    If I'm correct, I'm not sure what the reason for the change was. If it's a change of the WB shield at the beginning, that's just silly
     
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    Which raises an interesting philosophical question. If a 4K scan could take to you closer to the OCN, but this scan produced something which looks closer to an original print, then if Deliverance were to get a 4K scan and a re-release, which would be the 'right' version.
    I have the original release on Blu-ray Disc. I won't be upgrading unless (a) my bank account has a quiet month and (b) this is going cheap.
    Steve W
     
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    Interesting never noticed this credit font change difference... Hmm makes you wonder. I am still going to buy the Deliverence Digibook for the uncompressed audio... just crossing fingers for audio upgrades for titles such as Bullitt, Enter the Dragon, Speed Racer... those come to mind I know WB's has many others that deserve both image and sound upgrades.
     
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    Paramount put digital credits on African Queen in a manner very similar to Warner's credits on Deliverance. Not sure what the reasoning might be, aside from perhaps wanting to use less generational elements.
     
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    Credit change could have something to do with TV, ie. possibly too small a font on many screens.

    Similar situation on Greatest Story Ever Told. Tiny font, that was quite normal in UP 70 on a sixty foot screen.

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