New Samsung 43 or 50" DLP rear projector in stores NOW!! (1 Viewer)

[Gordon Groff]

I too had a similar experience as Jason. I saw the 43" Samsung DLP and it blew away the PQ of anything else they had set up. It reminded me of the 50" Runco plasma I had seen. I really hope the nausea issue isnt', but I'm going to take my wife (who can't watch home movies or the film roller coaster at the start of theater movies w/out getting nauseous) over to Tweeters, set her down in front of it for a while and see what happens.

I really wanted a 65" RPTV for the system I'm putting together and for my room size.

Anyone see the 50" Samsung? Anyone know when the 61" is coming?

If I go this direction, it will completely change my intended layout and cabinetry that I'm going to build 'cause the Samsung DLP's are a lot smaller than CRT RPTV's.

As far as B&M vs. online purchases, I'm with Derek1 on this, but for $1,000 I might compromise my principles too:b . I value the showrooms for their demo service and SOME salespeople for their knowlege.

As our world evolves, perhaps B&M should charge an admission fee ($5?) to cover their expenses that could go towards the purchase price? I'm only half kidding about this. I would not mind paying for services rendered or the knowlege of a specialist.

FWIW,
Gordon

 

[Brad Wood]

Ok, I'll weigh in on the B&M vs. E-tailer issue. I've worked on both sides, as a manufacturer's representative and a consumer of HT gear, so here's my $.02.

There are alot of reasons why E-tailers can price their products so low, and manufacturers bear much of that load. An E-tailer has far less overhead than most B&M stores and begins selling product for low prices. Then, when the manufacturer gets used to shipping a high amount of widgets to one location without much support and low logistics costs, the E-tailer says, "oh, BTW, we have 50 different widget manufacturers knocking down our door and if you don't give us a 20% discount from end column dealer pricing, we'll go with company B." Most manufacturers will cave in when they picture losing such a huge chunk of business. This perpetuates the low price loop.

I won't be a hypocrite, I've purchased things from the internet, mostly things like cable or small items. I also have never paid anything close to retail, because my years as an audio engineer have helped me make alot of great contacts. However, I have also made relationships with retailers, and sometimes I don't get great price deals, but I make up for it in many other ways, and it comes down to service, service, service. Not to say that B&M's have the market cornered on service, some of them can barely tie their shoes, and I don't buy from them. However, in many ways, B&M's are also selling consulting services. When a large institution like a church, school or sports arena needs a large A/V system, they hire a consultant to design it for them, and help them get the best price from a contractor. That's essentially what you're doing when you walk into your local A/V shop. You're relying on the expertise of someone who knows about A/V for a living, and when you shop at the B&M, and buy on the web, you are, quite simply, stealing that expertise.

As for the beginning of this thread, I don't think you should be forced to pay $1K more for something. This is a capitalist society after all. I would recommend though, waiting a week or two. Most B&M's aren't going to deal on their first floor model, it costs them alot in time and order processing to get another one in. If you decide to buy from the web however, good luck getting your local B&M to give you a loaner when your spankin' new display craps out then night before your yearly Super Bowl party.

Sorry about the length, it was more like $.05

Caveat Emptor

Brad Woodhouse

 

[DaViD Boulet]

It was like three layers of images: the players on the sideline on top of the players on the field on top of the people in the stands across the field; all at at the same level of detail. It didn't seem realistic to me; almost most too much detail. IMHO

That's what most of us call a good display with excellent resolution. That sense of layering/depth is what separates the *real* HD displays from the wannabes. Real-life has even more detail than what you were looking at. How close were you to the set?

 

[Gordon Groff]

That's what most of us call a good display with excellent resolution. That sense of layering/depth is what separates the *real* HD displays from the wannabes. Real-life has even more detail than what you were looking at. How close were you to the set?

Amen, David! I just hope I can overcome the negative WAF (Wife Acceptance Factor) from the eyestrain we both felt (I posted the results of our viewing experience in another thread), which I believe is due to the eye/brain trying to resolve an apparent 3-D image on a 2-D surface. My wife (who wears glasses) said the feeling was just like when you first get a next stronger prescription lens and and everything seems too close/clear/bold for a while.
I read elswhere that after using this display for a while you adjust to it and the feeling of eye strain goes away. Makes sense. May be wishfull thinking on my part, but I'd be willing to risk it for the stunning picture I saw! My slightly compulsive nature makes it hard to settle for something lessor after I've seen something better .
Can't wait to see the 61" version! I'm going to ask try it on different sources (other than their HDTV loop- maybe DVD or a low-res TV feed) and if I can find something that is not so visually disturbing, drag my Honey back for another look! WAF is pretty important!
Gordon

 

[Marvin E]

That's what most of us call a good display with excellent resolution. That sense of layering/depth is what separates the *real* HD displays from the wannabes. Real-life has even more detail than what you were looking at. How close were you to the set?

And that's what it was, a good display; a very good display, but a realistic display? I was standing about 5 feet away from the Samsung. Anyway, if "real-life" has more detail than what I was watching, then my eyeballs need a tune-up. The level of detail of an object in "real-life" seems to fade as the distance increases... that's why some people need binoculars.:rolleyes

 

[David Lorenzo]

I don't understand how there can be DLP HD2 TV's this cheap, and the cheapest DLP HD2 front PJ is no less than 8 or 9000. With decent ones running around $12,000 :frowning: . The materials used to make a RPTV would cost a lot more than FP unit.

 

[Hank]

I wouldn't mind eventually getting a DLP set. Perfect geometry, perfect convergence. The only improvement I hope they make is the ability to display black as good as CRT's.

 

[Luke_Y]

David, this thread was started in November. Are the models discussed HD2?

 

[KevinFC]

Yes the 507 and 437 are both HD2 sets. They are introducing a 46" and 56" in april or may.

 

[Luke_Y]

Kevin, thanks for the info. The more I hear I am a bit more interested in these sets.

 

[Luke_Y]

I wonder what the price will be on the 56"

 

[KevinFC]

From what I have heard the MSRP is 4999.00 But the MSRP for the 50" is 4499.00, but I have found it as low as 3499.00 and as high as 3999.00. So we will see what the actual price will be upon delivery to the stores.