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  1. DaveF

    In the market for a 4k projector

    I wonder how the audio works. Probably a custom computational-audio solution to correct for not being “properly” centered. It would be great if such solutions come down to consumer electronics for home media rooms / home theaters.
  2. DaveF

    In the market for a 4k projector

    Speaker location big issue for commercial cinemas I think. Current auditoriums have front audio behind screens? Going opaque direct view big challenge, it seems.
  3. DaveF

    In the market for a 4k projector

    Gonna go to a 100” Sony LCD?
  4. DaveF

    In the market for a 4k projector

    Projectors have all kinds of compromises, and more so against HDR direct view. But…120” still trumps 80” for me. But it’s a matter of taste. I get someone wanting all the benefits of a 70” OLED, with none of the costs or downsides of a projector. I’m hoping 120” direct views get here sooner...
  5. DaveF

    In the market for a 4k projector

    120” makes my wife smile. :D
  6. DaveF

    In the market for a 4k projector

    My 18Gbps connection was fine for 4K HDR. But it didn’t support HDCP 2.2 so I had to upgrade to a new cable for some content to play.
  7. DaveF

    In the market for a 4k projector

    I'm the owner of a new-to-me JVC NX7. It's currently on the floor of my theater. I turned it on to make sure it made the trip home ok, updated the firmware to the current 3.52, and did a factory reset so I can start fresh. My very first reaction was "Wow remote control motorized lens...
  8. DaveF

    In the market for a 4k projector

    Is an 18 Gbps HDMI connection sufficient for 4K streaming / UHD / HTPC viewing with a JVC NP5 or NZ7? I’ve got an HDMI over Ethernet cable run to my HD projector. It’s looking like getting a new 4K / 8K HDMI cable up there is very difficult (i.e. cut into walls and ceilings to access and run...
  9. DaveF

    In the market for a 4k projector

    Played with projector settings, using some settings from an old review, and retook my CR. Got it from 800:1 up to 1700:1. The basic parameters of the display mode and gamma or maybe cranking up the Contrast are probably key to getting to 1600:1. I then dialed Brightness down to the minimum...
  10. DaveF

    In the market for a 4k projector

    I've repeatedly measured ~800:1 ± 15% with two different meters. With the current $35 meter, I measured that contrast both at the projector and at the screen. It's easy to see this budget meter is: Linear from 0.2 lux to 10,000 lux Precise to ~15% And that's all that matters. Linearity and...
  11. DaveF

    In the market for a 4k projector

    Here are three photos I took Sep 2016 on an iPhone 8. The Sony 40ES would have ~100 hrs original bulb use. These might show my projector has not degraded but has always been ~1000:1 on/off contrast. These grays are representative of what I see now. I'm not 100% sure I had HDMI range correct...
  12. DaveF

    In the market for a 4k projector

    Here I’m at my screen. Full white at screen Full black at screen I think this was full white on screen with meter just off screen This is full white and meter in my shadow This is full black at screen. iPhone is doing low light mode; this is dark grey visually. This is full black...
  13. DaveF

    In the market for a 4k projector

    Got the meter a bit more centered this time, in case it matters The meter orientation to make it work Full White: 9800 to 10800 Full black: 11 to 15
  14. DaveF

    In the market for a 4k projector

    I exchanged my light meter for the current model. It's got an integrated tripod mount, so easier to use. And then repeated the on/off measurements to check my results. In short, same results of around 750:1. I also checked the HDMI range setting. Auto / Limited was correct. Going to Full...
  15. DaveF

    In the market for a 4k projector

    https://hometheaterhifi.com/reviews/video-display/projectors/sony-vpl-hw40es-projector-review/ And I found this for the 50ES, a higher end projector from a couple years earlier. https://hometheaterhifi.com/reviews/video-display/projectors/sony-vpl-hw50es-projector/
  16. DaveF

    In the market for a 4k projector

    I’d like to try doing ANSI contrast readings later. The basics are straightforward. Though people seem to differ on nuances.
  17. DaveF

    In the market for a 4k projector

    And I’ve wondered if my projector has degraded black levels. The black bars are noticeably not black. They are grey, at best. But I don’t have the visual memory to recall what it was when new. I was sure it’s black levels don’t compare with JVC. What I didn’t know was how it compared to current...
  18. DaveF

    In the market for a 4k projector

    It’s very useful. I’m looking at simple on/off contrast ratio. For my Sony that should be 5000:1. I measured 800:1. And the degradation has been reported and measured to affect on/off contrast ratio for 7+ years. My projector has degraded. Assuming my projector wasn’t garbage and I should have...
  19. DaveF

    In the market for a 4k projector

    For reference: original review on Sony 40ES puts on/off contrast ratio at ~5000:1 https://www.forbes.com/sites/geoffreymorrison/2014/05/12/sony-vpl-hw40es-review/
  20. DaveF

    In the market for a 4k projector

    I decided to measure the contrast ratio of my Sony VW-HW40ES HD projector. I bought a cheap light meter. (Actually the prior model of this one because I wasn’t paying attention. But for anyone might to do the, I’d now buy the newer one.) Subsequent to buying my projector in 2016, I learned...
  21. DaveF

    In the market for a 4k projector

    Prior gen: NX5, 7, 9 New gen: NZ7, 8, 9 I’m comparing middle models across product generations. I think this is how people normally compare products.
  22. DaveF

    In the market for a 4k projector

    I’d get the 6050 because I “need” a black device. I’m not buying a white projector like the 5050. :) If the 6050 were $2500, what I paid for my Sony 40ES in 2016, I think I’d buy, and do an interim 4K upgrade. But at $4000, I’m waiting to see what evolves this year with new projectors and...
  23. DaveF

    In the market for a 4k projector

    If the NX line didn’t have its super long sync times, I’d probably buy a used NX7. But those sync times are make them a “no thanks”. I’m wondering if I should look more seriously at the Epson 6050. But I can’t muster any enthusiasm in paying $4000 for fauxK in 2022. And my impression is Epson’s...
  24. DaveF

    In the market for a 4k projector

    JVC has a three projector line-up. I’m comparing mid-model to mid-model. Which is NX7 to NZ8. Also, stated native contrast numbers for Z7=X5, Z8=X7, Z9=X9. If they were “honest” these would be NZ5, NZ7, NZ9. I see the model-number inflation to 7,8,9 as marketing hand-waving to try and distract...
  25. DaveF

    In the market for a 4k projector

    I noted this in another thread, but actual price is more than double, almost 2.5x in pricing I got then and now, in just three years from NX7 to NZ8. The real effect is I’ve pushed my 4K upgrade another year probably.
  26. DaveF

    In the market for a 4k projector

    I’ll be in Indy in a couple weeks :) But not over Labor Day weekend.
  27. DaveF

    In the market for a 4k projector

    When the N5 and N7 launched, they didn’t really ship until Spring the following year. There’s guesses that if JVC did have new models planned to announce this Fall, given the global manufacturing problems in general and tech specifically, would they be shipping in volume this calendar year? Who...
  28. DaveF

    In the market for a 4k projector

    And I’m in same boat as you. I wanted 4K in 2020. I really want to buy in 2021. Waiting for CEDIA to make decision on what to do. I don’t know anything, but in reading forum(s), the prognostications is there won’t be a new JVC model announced in 2021. Possibly further updated firmware updates...
  29. DaveF

    In the market for a 4k projector

    In that price range, the two best projectors are Sony and JVC. Sony recently announced the successor to the 295. I’ve not seen direct comparisons, but the past couple years my takeaway was the N5 was overall the better projector than the 295, and it doesn’t look like the incremental Sony model...
  30. DaveF

    In the market for a 4k projector

    As of late 2019, I believe the best option for normal people is to use a JVC projectors integrated tone mapping. I understand it’s now better than that of the Panasonic UHD player, and works for all sources, not being limited to 4K discs.
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