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Hmm I would guess they'd fix that by now....

I mean different face plate, that stuff, insides are often the same, I got this information from a friend very into audio, just not the lower end, so he dosen't provide a lot of info on home theatre like my reciever search

John S Choi, I wasn't necissarly planning on using 7.1, at least not right away What would you suggest then? My main reason is for DVDs here, sure pro logic 2 is cool for normal tv use, but DVD is the importance here I believe I"ll skip the Kenwood.... sure features features, I'm not going...

Sooo how is the quality of the sound on the Kenwood, I know its powerful and has every thing.... But SQ means a lot to me "SBR problem in the H/K320 & 520 is no.no." I don't understand

HARMAN KARDON AVR-520 vs. Kenwood VR 6070 vs. Pioneer Elite VSX-41 I can't decide! They are all about $500 or so, thats my limit Thanks Guys