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We surpassed 1000 views on this thread thanks to the Troll. Once again, I have proven that even though you want me to go away, you come here to read my stuff and you even reply to it - LOL This reminds of Howard Stern, everyone hated him yet they listen to his show on the radio - LOL

--BTW folks, I'm not a PR fan Hee Hee. and I'm receiving the bulk of the flames - LOL Is this a hazing for the new Troll on this forum ? LOL Lets recap ; 1. Three people here stated their subjective opinions that they are not big fans of PR's for music reproduction. I on the other...

--has no experience to back up his claims. All my comments are based on experience, I don't repeat what others say just to be part of the gang. You forgot, this Troll is not making claims, this Troll is stating opinions on what I like and dislike. I'm not asking you to agree with this...

...Must .......keep .............thread ....................alive... I have a bet with someone here that we can reach 1000 views.. Keep the flamethrowers warm......... I have more fuel is ye need sum... It aint over till the fat subwoofer sings.

I hope yer right, I have plans for that new sub.

--but I don't consider this to be one of them Grasshoppers I could be wrong, but my research has indicated this. Let me know if I'm wrong. Madisound forum - people there talk about full range sound systems, they broke the "low pass 60hz" barrier and explored the uncharted region...

re: Tumult When is this driver going to be released? People making plans on vaporware - lol

I challenge thee. My isobaric horn loaded woofer array [tm, 1987] against your whimpy PR's .... LOL I smell fear in thee.. heheheh

/Peek into my crazy mind Since you pry and wonder why PR's just don't get me excited, lets rewind 15 years ago when I was a wee lad with crazy ideas. /joke I was walking down a dark alley one night and got mugged by a gang of passive radiators, since then I vowed to rid PR's of...

--But for those people considering passive radiators and --doing research on them, they don't only want opinions, --they want to know the credibility of the person giving --them. I'm not trying to convince people that I'm right. I'm just placing my vote in the hat on what I like and...

--Jack has an IB, Ported, Sealed, Dipole and PR sub all in --the same room that he has been playing with. That's great. I admire people who experiment with various configurations and drivers until they find internal audio peace. That's what I do. I just don't accept recommendations then...

After the debate we are headed to Uncle Bucks steakhouse in Montana to drink bud and eat some prime rib. Listen to the arguments on whether the bear taste great or is less filling? Who is correct? How many years of bear drinking does one need to be qualified to make judgement? Do you...

--You still can't tell me what you've heard, and I've been --asking for days. Read the threads, I already stated my opinions and consider the matter closed. O.T. This forum is funny. The forum regulars are having a hard time accepting subjective opinions from others when the...

I stated that I don't like the sound of PR's for music - LOL Some people agree and others stated that they like the sound of PR's. Who is the winner of the subjective debate ? LOL

whoops... website isa choking.......

Buy land next to the Bill Gates estate. Dig an underground tunnel bass horn underneath his estate, tuned it to 1hz. Turn up the tunes at night in burps! heheheh

Buy land next to the Bill Gates estate. Dig an underground tunnel bass horn underneath his estate, tuned it to 1hz. Turn up the tunes at night in burps! heheheh

--PR's offer good bass, but do not provide the best --overall transient response bingo!

--dual 18" PR ServoDrive Contrabass. apples/oranges. You can't compare a direct drive PR system with a standard PR and call it the same thing - LOL There is a huge difference between the two.

--Why do more people not build sealed designs Most people on "bass freaks". If you go to the car stereo forum all they talk about is using 1-2kw of power to run their 15" high x-max subs.. The mystery region known as "60hz-20khz) has not been explored by them - hehe This forum is...

I'm building my own system from scratch. I set criteria and made a list of possible drivers. I then order sample drivers to perform the final listening test to achieve peace of mind. For me, it's a long process to build this system, but in the end I don't have to build 10 systems to finally...

--In general if you don't think PR systems can sound good, --then you haven't heard one that was properly designed. I didn't say they didn't sound good, I said I didn't like the sonic personality of PR's, regardless of implementation. Subjective debates are never won, a person can argue...

--I ask again, what PR's have you used in your experience? --What alignments? Any projects? Have you heard only --commercial subs? They all have the same sonic personality. I've built PR systems over 10 years ago as the poor mans solution to outputting more bass from small drivers...

--Wrong. That's only true of you have no idea how to design --competently. LOL. Nobody wins subjective arguments. Properly designed or not, they sound as I described above. LOL

Thanks for the T/S.

LOL.. 16 woofers in house = WAR Wife Approval Rating Sometimes called OLAF Old Lady Approval Factor If implemented, the name changes to BIPO Betty Is Pissed Off Which leads to STFUB

PR = sloppy bass - LOL shake rattle and roll, good for games and HT. I don't like them for music. If you like them for music, two thumbs up for you.. yay!

can I fit 16 in a volkswagon ? heheheheh

Jar Jar says... what would you do with these? Mesa gots sixteen 18" woofers in storage...... Earthquake car audio (EQ18CAST), 3" inch VC.. accordian surround..... Been in storage for 10 years and they are in good shape. 4 ohms each, was for car audio back then.. Looks like a standard...

http://www.royaldevice.com/ Diagram of design http://www.royaldevice.com/customita1.htm Notice how the horn loading is underneath the room and the bass comes out of the grid. 16 woofers I think. Pretty clever design, I like it.