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i bet jim carey WILL get an academy award at least once in his life time


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#1 of 42 OFFLINE   felix_suwarno

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Posted October 07 2002 - 01:12 AM

first time i saw him i thought he was just another comedian. i liked him a lot, but my appreciation towards him has grown more after seeing him in the majestic and the truman show.

how many actors out there can play serious role AND comedian role? okay, robin williams, joe pesci ( imagine home alone, and then imagine casino )...and i think thats it.

#2 of 42 OFFLINE   Ricardo C

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Posted October 07 2002 - 01:33 AM

Dude, if he didn't win for Ace Ventura 2, he's NEVER gonna win Posted Image

Seriously, though... I thought he was a lock with his performance in Man on the Moon. He was robbed blind. His day WILL come, however.

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#3 of 42 OFFLINE   Alex Spindler

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Posted October 07 2002 - 02:34 AM

Yeah, as long as he doesn't abandon the serious roles, I think he'll find one that people will feel safe giving him an award for.

Of course, he could just let them hear the most annoying sound in the world.

#4 of 42 OFFLINE   Mike Broadman

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Posted October 07 2002 - 02:44 AM

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how many actors out there can play serious role AND comedian role?


Tom Hanks, Steve Martin, Mel Gibson...

In Man on the Moon, all he dead was do a passable impression of a comic who was many times more talented than him.

#5 of 42 OFFLINE   Michael Reuben

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Posted October 07 2002 - 02:47 AM

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how many actors out there can play serious role AND comedian role?

Off the top of my head:

Kevin Kline (won his Oscar for A Fish Called Wanda, but also made Sophie's Choice and has played Hamlet)
Robert de Niro (compare Analyze This and Wag the Dog with any number of films, most recently City by the Sea)
Al Pacino (Oscar-nominated for Dick Tracy as well as for a dozen or more serious roles; plus I'd call Simone a comedy)
Philip Seymour Hoffman (compare State and Main with, e.g., Magnolia)
Jack Nicholson (As Good As It Gets vs., e.g., A Few Good Men)
Robert Downey Jr. (Soapdish vs. Chaplin).
Jim Broadbent (Iris vs. Bullets Over Broadway)
Harrison Ford (Working Girl vs. Indiana Jones or the Jack Ryan films)
Michael Keaton (Beetlejuice vs. Batman or Jackie Brown)
Samuel L. Jackson (take your pick; I think he does both in Pulp Fiction)
Bill Murray (take your pick, then watch him in as Polonius in the Ethan Hawke Hamlet)

I'm sure there are dozens of others.

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#6 of 42 OFFLINE   felix_suwarno

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Posted October 07 2002 - 03:32 AM

they had roles in comedy movies but they didnt look like comedian to me. i like jack nicholson in as good as it gets! really good movie, but come on. compare jim carey in ace ventura and jim carey in truman show. the difference was like heaven and earth.

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Posted October 07 2002 - 03:50 AM

Jeff Daniels--Dumb and Dumber vs. Terms of Endearment


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#8 of 42 OFFLINE   Stan

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Posted October 07 2002 - 03:54 AM

Not a chance.

Probably the most annoying actor alive, comic or serious.

The only decent thing he's ever done was 'The Cable Guy', but that was hardly Oscar material.
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Posted October 07 2002 - 03:54 AM

The Oscars (especially the acting ones) are often a reward for actors who make the industry a ton of cash. Sorry, but Julia Roberts did not even deserve a nomination, let alone win for Erin Brockovich (which was a good performance, dont get me wrong) but Ellen Burstyn was robbed for Requiem for a Dream. Julia Roberts has made a lot of money for a lot of people. The same could apply to Jim Carrey. He will win one someday. He may even deserve it. Time will tell. The same will eventually apply to Tom Cruise, Leo DiCaprio, etc.
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Posted October 07 2002 - 04:11 AM

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The Oscars (especially the acting ones) are often a reward for actors who make the industry a ton of cash.

Hmmm, who has lined more pockets in Hollywood, Jim Carrey or Geoffrey Rush? Posted Image

The really sad thing is that Jim Carrey, or any comedian has to do a "serious" role to get an Oscar nomination. That's so fucked up. What you end up with by that ridiculous mindset is Fred Astaire getting his only Oscar nomination for The Towering freakin' Inferno of all things. Let's face it, comedic actors get lifetime achievement awards for the work we really remember. That Chaplin guy, or that Keaton guys, after all, were just vaudevillians. Posted Image

#11 of 42 OFFLINE   Wayne W

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Posted October 07 2002 - 04:16 AM

I personally think the Oscars are not worth anything anyways, but I do think Jim Carrey has the acting ability to give an "oscar-worthy" performance. I thought he was great in The Majestic and really hope he does more serious work. I don't like any of his silly movies, but I did like Liar Liar,The Man on the Moon, and The Truman Show.

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Posted October 07 2002 - 04:27 AM

Julia Roberts won an Oscar, so...

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Posted October 07 2002 - 04:28 AM

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I don't like any of his silly movies, but I did like Liar Liar
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Huh?

I think Jim will eventually win an Oscar but it will be for lifetime achievement not for any particular role. Although I am anxiously awaiting his reprisal of the Charlton Heston epic, The Ten Commandments. :P)

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#14 of 42 OFFLINE   Michael Reuben

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Posted October 07 2002 - 04:37 AM

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they had roles in comedy movies but they didnt look like comedian to me.

Then I don't understand your definition of "comedian" as it applies to movies. I'd define a "comedian" in this context as an actor who's funny in a comic role. You seem to be defining it as someone who does the equivalent of standup in the framework of a movie. That rather limits the frame of reference.

Other obvious candidates:

Tom Hanks (go back and look at Splash or Nothing in Common or Punchline)
Michael Caine (hilarious in Dirty Rotten Scoundrels; compare any of his serious roles)
Steve Martin (Roxanne contains both elements)
Bob Hoskins (Who Framed Roger Rabbit? vs. dozens of dramatic roles)
Owen Wilson (The Minus Man vs. Shanghai Noon)
Gene Hackman (the first two Superman films or Young Frankenstein vs. take-your-pick)

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#15 of 42 OFFLINE   felix_suwarno

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Posted October 07 2002 - 05:23 AM

sorry if i am not clear, michael. in my mind, a comedian stars in a movie that was built around him self. i mean, he would be the only one who could do the character in the movie. imagine the mask without jim carey, to be honest i couldnt even think anybody else except him.

#16 of 42 OFFLINE   Michael Reuben

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Posted October 07 2002 - 05:56 AM

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in my mind, a comedian stars in a movie that was built around him self.

As I said, a very narrow frame of reference.

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i couldnt even think anybody else except him.

The same is true of most great performances, including all the ones I've listed.

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#17 of 42 OFFLINE   felix_suwarno

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Posted October 07 2002 - 06:35 AM

i think gene hackman could fill jack nicholson's shoes in as good as it gets AND a few good men with no problem. while robert de niro could practically fill the shoes of, say, tom hanks in road to perdition. in heat, the role for robert de niro and al pacino could be swapped, and nobody would complaint...these are grrrreaat actors, but what i like about jim carrey is his uniqueness.

#18 of 42 OFFLINE   Michael Reuben

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Posted October 07 2002 - 07:04 AM

They could play the roles, but they wouldn't give the same performances. Likewise, all of Jim Carrey's roles could be played by others (Martin Short could handle any or all of them), but it wouldn't be the same performance.

Just to be clear: I like Jim Carrey, and I think he's a fine actor. I just don't share your view of what constitutes a "comedian" in film.

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#19 of 42 OFFLINE   felix_suwarno

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Posted October 07 2002 - 07:11 AM

thats fine, michael. now i will try to find out who martin short is, i have never heard about him before.

#20 of 42 OFFLINE   Michael Reuben

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Posted October 07 2002 - 07:40 AM

Felix, for an entertaining introduction to the comic talents of Martin Short, I highly recommend Innerspace, which is available in a solid DVD from Warner Home Video.

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