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WWDC 2011 Live Discussion Thread 6/6/11


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#21 of 117 Carlo Medina

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Posted June 06 2011 - 06:00 AM

$29.99 for Lion. Available only on Mac App Store, need about 4GB of space, and you can use it on all of your authorized devices. Wow.



#22 of 117 Carlo Medina

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Posted June 06 2011 - 06:01 AM

Try refreshing Dave, if that doesn't work clear the cache and reload the page. I was having the same problem but now it's fixed.

Originally Posted by DaveF 

Yes, but I want to go back to the beginning and start from there...the system is not going through its history correctly.






#23 of 117 Sam Posten

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Posted June 06 2011 - 06:01 AM

WWDC 20011 theme:  Screw you developers, if you do something cool enough we will steal it and bake it into the OS.


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Posted June 06 2011 - 06:03 AM

Dave, turn off auto refresh at the top of the page.


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Posted June 06 2011 - 06:10 AM

An hour and 10 minutes to get to something of substance:  Wireless Syncing.


So far both Microsoft and Apple are having the worst keynotes in my memory.  Both are terribly boring.


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Posted June 06 2011 - 06:22 AM

I give up. The blogs aren't working for me (they need a better live blog tool). It's hopping content erratically. I'll read the summary here later. :)


But I did see that Apple's got another "Spaces" tool. Is this still a worthless application-centric design? Or did they make it right, with a document-centric approach?



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Posted June 06 2011 - 06:27 AM

This is how you gain customer trust, you admit your mistakes with grace and honesty.  It may take Apple a while but when they do it they do it right.


"Mobile Me was not our finest hour"


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Posted June 06 2011 - 06:28 AM

Dave you are just going to have to get over that document centric thing, it's an App world.


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Posted June 06 2011 - 06:29 AM

Mobile Me is dead as of right this minute.  Not a minute too soon!


This Death Star is fully operational!


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Posted June 06 2011 - 06:32 AM

Just paid $99 for MobileMe renewal last month so I am
wondering how they will credit me.


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Posted June 06 2011 - 06:36 AM

So everyone gets mobile me now?
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Posted June 06 2011 - 06:38 AM

"We've been working 10 years to get rid of the file system"


AND THE TRUTH SHALL SET YOU FREE!  #wwdc


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Posted June 06 2011 - 06:39 AM

People were reporting pro rated credits for Mobile me on their cards earlier today, sounds like some truth to it...


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Posted June 06 2011 - 06:40 AM

Is the iCloud FREE?  It was rumored at $25 per month.


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Posted June 06 2011 - 06:41 AM

Via @dcurtis:



Apple just pissed off:   Dropbox,  Sparrow,  Instapaper,  Readability,  Remember the Milk,  Facebook,  RIM, &  the carriers.    Well done.   --- Add in Google!

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Posted June 06 2011 - 06:56 AM

Yup, FREE.  Way to go, Apple!


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Posted June 06 2011 - 06:59 AM

Sam, in response to your post above...


Apple has just put a lot of people out of business.


Those are excellent examples.


Additionally, most of the popular Jailbreak apps have

now been introduced into iOS 5.


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Posted June 06 2011 - 06:59 AM

iTunes Match has possibilities, I wonder if it will let me convert the $1000 I have in DRM wrapped iTunes tracks to cloud based free downloads as part of the $25


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Posted June 06 2011 - 07:01 AM

Excuse my language for my overall enthusiasm here....


Apple just announced a shit storm of innovative software

products that are going to leave a lot of manufacturers in

the dust trying to catch up to it.


To this day, nobody can rock this industry like Apple.

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Posted June 06 2011 - 07:18 AM

With iTunes Match, Apple just landed a swift kick in the balls to both Amazon & Google. Those companies took a chance in announcing their "music-in-the-cloud" services without music industry support. Said services are now already obsolete.


I own over 3000 CDs which I have ripped to my iTunes library. $25 a year to have them accessible from any of my iOS devices anywhere? Hell to the Yeah!!


Everything in Lion, iOS 5 and iCloud looks great. Beyond my expectations, honestly, and this is the first Apple announcement since the iPhone where I can say that. One of the things I am most excited about is delta updares. This is LONG overdue. As someone stuck with slow, crappy DSL this is going to be a godsend.


The only thing I am less than enthusiastic about is Lion only available through the App Store. A 4GB download on my DSL is going to be painful. Even worse, I am responsible to maintaining the show control Mac at the theater where I am principle sound designer. This Mac is deliberately kept off the internet because you can't have changes happening to your system in the middle of a run. There are lots of Macs in situations like this, and these are now left out of the Lion party. Hopefully Apple will relent and provide some way to obtain a DVD of Lion for these systems.


But that's one negative in a whole lot of positives. Way to go, Apple!!


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