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#1 of 20 OFFLINE   Johnny Angell

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Posted October 14 2008 - 03:15 PM

I see it's slated for release later this month in the release thread, but didn't find any other mention of it here. So I thought I'd ask what are the expectations for this release? It's being released by Blue Underground? I'm not familiar with them.

Any extras or bare bones only?
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#2 of 20 OFFLINE   Scott Strang

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Posted October 16 2008 - 07:34 AM

I bet that would depend on how well the dvd release sold. It seemed to take forever for this title to hit dvd which included one failed attempt. And the release that came out was wanting.

Perhaps a BD version will have better quality.

#3 of 20 OFFLINE   Jesse Blacklow

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Posted October 16 2008 - 07:59 AM

Blue Underground is run by people who are genuinely passionate (IMO) about the stuff they put out. Their quality has been iffy, but that can be attributed as much to the source material as anything else. They certainly don't try to skimp on specs or extras.

Here's the extras and specs for "Blue Underground":

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EXTRAS
# Audio Commentary with Director of Photography Victor J. Kemper
# Lloyd Kaufman Goes Hollywood - Interview with Associate Producer Lloyd Kaufman
# Starring the Jolly Rogers - Interviews with The Jolly Rogers F-14 Fighter Squadron
# Theatrical Trailers
# TV Spots
# Enhanced for D-Box Motion Control Systems

SPECS
# Color
# 7.1 DTS-HD; 7.1 Dolby TrueHD; 5.1 Dolby Digital Surround EX
# English
# Optional Subtitles: English SDH, Francais, Espanol
# 2.35:1
# 1980
# 102 Mins
# Rated PG
# Region Code: 0
FINAL COUNTDOWN, THE (Blu-ray) by Blue Underground, directed by Don Taylor (Damien: Omen II)

BTW, BU's got a bunch of stuff coming out on Blu-ray. "Stendhal Syndrome" is due Nov 18, "Dead and Buried" is due Jan 27, and they're planning on releasing "Fire And Ice", "Maniac", "The Bird With The Crystal Plumage", "Two Evil Eyes", "Uncle Sam", and "Vigilante" in late 2008/early 2009.
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#4 of 20 OFFLINE   Stephen_J_H

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Posted October 16 2008 - 08:06 AM

There's a little misinformation going on here. Blue Underground previously released an excellent version of The Final Countdown on DVD in 2004, in both 1 and 2-disc versions, remastered in HD. There was a bit of confusion going on prior to this release, because a company named Pacific Family Entertainment claimed to hold the rights and announced a P/S version which may or may not have materialized. Blue Underground has an excellent reputation as a purveyor of cult and horror films on DVD, typically with remastered DTS tracks and 16:9 enhanced transfers. There is no reason to believe their BD output will not be of similar quality.
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#5 of 20 OFFLINE   Jeff Whitford

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Posted October 16 2008 - 10:18 AM

Blue Undergrounds versions were very good as Stephen said
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#6 of 20 OFFLINE   Johnny Angell

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Posted October 17 2008 - 03:06 AM

Thanks for the info on Blue Underground. That gives me more confidence in buying the BD.
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Posted October 17 2008 - 03:34 AM

You can find out more here: Blue Underground - DVD and Blu-ray Cult Classics
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#8 of 20 OFFLINE   Johnny Angell

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Posted October 17 2008 - 05:33 AM

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Posted October 25 2008 - 08:18 PM

It's coming out Tuesday but I haven't seen any reviews yet. I own the older 2 disc DVD from BU and it's quite nice.
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Posted October 26 2008 - 09:35 AM

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It's coming out Tuesday but I haven't seen any reviews yet. I own the older 2 disc DVD from BU and it's quite nice.
Actually, it is coming out Nov. 4th. It was pushed back a week in the last couple weeks on the Blue Underground web site and on sites like Best Buy and Netflix.

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Posted October 26 2008 - 03:59 PM

I ordered a copy from Amazonia. They have never noted this delay. I may have to get Planet Of The Grapes to hold me over a week....?
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Posted October 26 2008 - 05:09 PM

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It's coming out Tuesday but I haven't seen any reviews yet. I own the older 2 disc DVD from BU and it's quite nice.

I saw a review posted today over at DVDTalk.

DVD Talk Review: The Final Countdown (Blu-ray)

#13 of 20 OFFLINE   Rachael B

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Posted October 26 2008 - 05:37 PM

The review sounds encouraging. Thanks for posting it! I skip alotta' not so special features but that cancid interview sounds fun. The warm and fuzzy gets stale and bored. It sounds kind'a tabloid-ish but more fun than Jery, Jerry, Jerry. It sounds like a better than average backstory.

I'm anxious to get a shipping notice.
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Posted November 14 2008 - 08:54 AM

I just watched this movie as a BR rental and I'm so glad I rented it. I was very disappointed in this move and find the review on DVDTalk way off base IMHO.
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the movie deftly mixes the action in with a thoughtful response to the impossible question it poses, with each side of the equation making intelligent, well-reasoned arguments about what course to take.
I found it to be anything but deft and well-reasoned. I found it dis-jointed and haphazard. Towards the beginning of the film, when we see a pilot land under duress and is captured by the big net, a character gets a look at the pilot and grimaces. We never know why. The ending is expected and cliche.

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The screenplay is sharply written enough to present this question with the gravity it deserves, and it's matched with equal thoughtfulness and sincerity by a wonderful cast.
I found the screenplay to be very week and it never explored the dilemma they were facing in any depth at all.
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The inexperience of some of the background players occasionally shines through, and some overacting sporadically creeps in, but the bulk of the cast does a commendable job of sincerely presenting each side of the argument without ever slipping into comfortable clichés.
Does it ever, amateur acting is written all over this. Sometimes this works, as in "Jaws", but not here.
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Admittedly, some stretches of The Final Countdown haven't aged particularly well, if in kind of a charmingly dated way, and the limitations of its very modest budget are occasionally apparent. Having pilots marvel at the size of the Japanese fleet and then cutting to scratchy, ineptly tinted newsreel footage isn't altogether convincing, for instance. Associate producer Lloyd Kaufman mentions elsewhere on this Blu-ray disc that director Don Taylor wanted all of the scenes with the Japanese Zeroes to be pieced together from stock footage, and it sounds as if The Final Countdown as a whole was only a few missteps away from being entirely unwatchable.
I kept watching this movie like you'd watch a train wreck. When they were comparing the historical photo of Pearl Harbor with the one just taken by a modern camera system, it appeared to be the same photo. The same angle, grainy, and the same waves in the water.

Yes there were some good actors in this, but they had little to work with. I don't think I've seen worse from Kirk Douglas, Martin Sheen, Katharine Ross, or Charles Durning.

The special effects were poor at best, but the movie could still have been very good with a much better script and a director who knows how to get performances from his actors. The idea is very interesting, but the execution is poor.

A time travel movie that is head and shoulders above this movie is "Frequency". It's been a while since I've watched it, but I don't believe that movie depended on special effects very much. It had a compelling story and was very well acted.

I don't understand the favorable reputation this movie has. IMHO, of course.
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Posted November 14 2008 - 09:09 AM

Johnny, i can sum it up in one great scene, splash the Zeros. How cool is it to see real planes from the 80s and 40s interact. That was the best part of the movie. Otherwise its a below average Twilight Zone.

Yea, i own the DVD. Love the music, and the extras were cool. I would buy the Blu-ray if it was CHEAP.

#16 of 20 OFFLINE   Johnny Angell

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Posted November 14 2008 - 09:39 AM

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Otherwise its a below average Twilight Zone.
Yeah, I think you got it, right there. Part of my problem is that I was expecting so much more.
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Posted November 14 2008 - 11:24 AM

I suppose I should mention that the reason I like this movie so much deals less with the plot and acting, and more with the portrayal of daily operations aboard the USS Nimitz. For me it's a lot better than Top Gun and its ilk. For that matter I like Under Seige even though Segal isn't my type - and even though another battleship stood in for USS Missouri for the interior shots.

By the way, those aren't real Zeros. None exist in flying condition. Those are US primary trainers from that period repainted with Japanese markings.

I'm nostalgic. I've served aboard both USS Nimitz and USS Missouri.
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#18 of 20 OFFLINE   Jeff Whitford

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Posted November 14 2008 - 01:36 PM

Johnny I couldnt disagree more.
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#19 of 20 OFFLINE   Johnny Angell

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Posted November 14 2008 - 03:23 PM

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Johnny I couldnt disagree more.
And that's why I included IMHO. If you'll just remember two things, we'll get along fine: I'm right and you're wrongPosted Image Just kidding.
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Posted November 15 2008 - 03:58 AM

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