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#1 of 8 OFFLINE   rick_da

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Posted March 09 2007 - 03:03 AM

If I connect my SACD player to the "CD/DVD/AUX IN" (in two channel mode)of my receiver instead of the six channel input, would I be taking advantage of the bass management of my receiver?..thanks.

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#2 of 8 OFFLINE   John Garcia

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Posted March 09 2007 - 04:54 AM

Yes, but then you are also processing that signal....
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#3 of 8 OFFLINE   Ed Moxley

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Posted March 09 2007 - 05:25 AM

That's defeating the purpose of sacd and dvd-a music. If you're going to do that, you might as well just buy the cd, instead of the sacd.
Some people get something like the ICBM from Outlaw, to have better bass management.
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#4 of 8 OFFLINE   rick_da

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Posted March 10 2007 - 12:44 AM

Thanks guys. Since my front speakers are connected from the hig-pass filter of my sub, and that a signal form a stereo SACD is full range, (multi-channel also is fulll range for that matter)..my question is: do i still need a bass manager with this kind of set-up..

My plan is stereo for now, multi channel later, since I can't seem to find a store here in Dubai,UAE selling the outlaw ICBM1.

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Posted March 10 2007 - 02:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Ed Moxley
That's defeating the purpose of sacd and dvd-a music. If you're going to do that, you might as well just buy the cd, instead of the sacd.

That would only be the case if the signal is downmixed to 16 bit / 44KHz (CD quality), but that may not be the case if you stick with the analogue inputs. There definitely will be a reduction in quality from "Direct" mode (Direct mode for analogue CD, AUX, etc. should give identical performance as the 5.1 inputs). How much the sound quality is reduced when bass management is engaged depends on the quality of the surround processor. I don't believe there is any downconverting of the analogue signal (correct me if I'm wrong), so a lot of the increased frequency response of SACD should be preserved in the processing.

My SCD-C222ES player has its own primitive form of bass management, and when it is engaged the sound degrades slightly from "Direct," but not to the extent that I'd call it "CD quality."

#6 of 8 OFFLINE   Ed Moxley

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Posted March 10 2007 - 05:51 AM

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Originally Posted by rick_da
My plan is stereo for now, multi channel later, since I can't seem to find a store here in Dubai,UAE selling the outlaw ICBM1.
You won't find an ICBM, in any store, anywhere, unless it's a used one. Outlaw equipment is sold online only. Very good equipment too........... Posted Image
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Oppo BDP-83 Blu ray                                  Polk Audio LSi9
Polk Audio LSiC                                  Sony SS-MB100H
SVS PC12-NSD (Sub)                       ...

#7 of 8 OFFLINE   gene c

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Posted March 10 2007 - 08:24 AM

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You won't find an ICBM, in any store, anywhere, unless it's a used one. Outlaw equipment is sold online only. Very good equipment too........
... Used is the only way to get one now. It looks like they have discontinued the ICBM Posted Image . Says so on their web site.
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#8 of 8 OFFLINE   John Garcia

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Posted March 12 2007 - 07:26 AM

The ICBM has been discontinued for at least a year and a half.

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Thanks guys. Since my front speakers are connected from the hig-pass filter of my sub, and that a signal form a stereo SACD is full range, (multi-channel also is fulll range for that matter)..my question is: do i still need a bass manager with this kind of set-up..

If that is the case, then no, you don't even need bass management.
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