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HTF REVIEW: Nausicaa of the Valley of the Wind: Recommended



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#1 of 41 OFFLINE   DaViD Boulet

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Posted February 21 2005 - 03:29 PM


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Posted February 21 2005 - 03:44 PM

Thanks for the review David. It sounds like there's issues with most of the US Ghibli releases that Disney has done so far. I have the R2 version of Porco Rosso, if you want to put them head to head to see if there are any differences.

BTW, it is Patrick Stewart. Posted Image

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#3 of 41 OFFLINE   DaViD Boulet

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Posted February 21 2005 - 04:11 PM

Hey Jason...just caught that typo. Posted Image I'd *love* to compare the Porco Rosso DVDs (working on my Porco Rosso review as I type...had hoped to get both of these out earlier but it took forever reviewing them and then Bambi came this weekend too!

email me and let's catch a time to hook up for the Porco Rosso A/B comparison...I'm around most nights this week if you're free...

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Posted February 21 2005 - 05:58 PM

What you haven't mentioned, David, is whether the English dub has more music than the original Japanese. I'll use Kiki's Delivery Service and Castle in the Sky as examples. In both, there is a liberal use of silence by Miyazaki. In the Disney dubs all silence has been eliminated and music added. To me, that's reason enough to never watch the English dubs. Disney's dictum to Hisaishi, when they asked him to rescore the film for the US dub was, audiences can't go two minutes without music. Stupid and ridiculous. In the case if Kiki's, they hired another composer to "play" Hisaishi's themes over any scene that was left silent, thereby totally subverting Miyazi's intent. I will also say that I have heard others say the Kiki's dub is wonderful because of the wonderful voice talent. Well, voice talent aside, it's not wonderful. I'll boil it down to Phil Hartman as Jiji the cat. Wrong in every way, with lots of smart aleck "hip" jokes that are not a part of the character in the original. So, what I'm saying is, you'll have to be a lot more specific as to the faithfulness of this dub (and Porco Rosso - a great film) - do they add music, is the dialogue close to the original or do they "add" touches?

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Posted February 21 2005 - 10:30 PM

much thanks for the timely review, David. i had planned to make this one of the 4 dvds i was going to pick up today, but i think i'm going to hold off now due to questions about the PQ.
while i've only seen the eariler import on a vhs tape, that along with a copy of The Art Of Nausicaa i still have , both reveal some very intensely vivd hues- especially in the range of blues. the haloing would have been bad enough ( i find it EXTREMELY distracting when its on animated titles), but these other anomoly you bring up makes it just too much to rush out and snap it up. i was fully aware that the first batch of Ghibli titles that Disney put out had issues, so i was pretty much expecting more of the same here. and it looks like they didn't disappoint in that regard. also, pretty lame loading the feature disc up with extra material, when they should have been on the second disc. to me, thats just amazingly amateurish/inconsiderate planning/authoring. y'know i almost get the feeling they are slightly degrading these releases on purpose, just out of spite. i know thats kind of a reach, but honestly- Miyazakis catalog just shames Disneys animated output of the last 10 yrs or so. if i were them , i'd be kind of embarrassed shame too 'cause i've always liked this one very much. from the atypically dense manga, to the first chopped up import of the film (under the title Warriors Of The Wind).

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Posted February 21 2005 - 11:07 PM

I'm glad I bought my limited edition R3 set last year. I dont really care for the option of English dubs (though I do admit I was impressed by the new soundtrack on Princess Mononoke when I caught a screening at the International Animation Festival in Ottawa this past Fall). The only dissapointment is the lack of English subs on the extras, and the confusing menus on the bonus discs. But the extras don't sound too hot on these R1 Special Editions anyway so I don't really mind. Plus the image resolution and color timing is much more accurate on the R3 volumes.

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Posted February 22 2005 - 02:18 AM

Marco, is R3 PAL or NTSC? Paul, Don't boycott a purchase just yet. If you want, hold off until others have had a chance to post their PQ impressions. What's your viewing system like? BTW, color saturation looks very much like what we see in Spirited Away. If you have that DVD and feel satisfied with the color...then you'll find it just fine with Nausicaa too. Blues looked satisfyingly saturated...I think that much of the painted artwork was just intensionally softer-toned in nature to reveal more subtlety...and the choice of palette (fewer primary colors in favor of pastels) is different than what you'd see in Finding Nemo, for example. BTW, if for any reason someone decides not to purchase this title based on PQ concerns, I would encourage you to share your rationale with the Customer relations folks at BV. And if you purchase a title but notice an anomolie like EE that distracts you during viewing...let them know that too. Why not? If Walmart shoppers can call and complain about black bars on their TV screen why can't you call and complain about edge-haloing? ArthurMy, In all my back-forth switching I didn't notice *any* difference in musical score or "effects"...only different dialogue (and the noise-reduction I mentioned). I'll pay closer attention to that fact and listen again but so far all seems ok in that regard. Anyone get their hand on the disc yet and have a chance to check this particular point? -dave p.s. the EE on this title is there...but it's not horrendously bad...pretty minor. I would consider the Triplets of Belville to be an example of an animated title rendered un-watchable due to excessive EE (R1 version).
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Posted February 22 2005 - 04:15 AM

Nice review David. I've never seen Nausicaa, but I've greatly enjoyed Miyazaki's other anime's, especially Spirited Away. I've ordered a copy, blind buy, well not so blind considering how effusive the reviews are for this film. I'm really looking forward to checking it out.


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Posted February 22 2005 - 04:47 AM

Posted Image Posted Image for another fine review from Mr. Boulet.

I am curious to know how this disc compares to the R2 and/or R3 version, but that won't stop me from picking it up today.

I agree with Arthur that it only takes one inappropriate casting choice to make the English dub, shall we say, "less than listenable" -- Phil Hartman in KIKI, Clare Danes in MONONOKE, etc.

I also agree that Miyazaki's use of silence is important. Watch the climax of KIKI
when she re-learns how to fly on a broomstick
for the perfect example of this. I don't always need music to tell me what emotions I should be feeling, and Miyazaki understands that very well.

In any case, I look forward to all 3 Studio Ghibli releases today!!

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Posted February 22 2005 - 05:02 AM

ended up picking this up when i was in BB, despite my earlier protestations. however i won't be cracking it open until i hear more feedback, and hopefully see some screenshot somewhere. i'm not a big animation fan, but i do like this movie quite a bit, and i want to enjoy the dvd. David, i've got an HT1000 and usually go with about a 72" wide screensize for 1.78/1.85 features. not quite as large as what you project, but then i probably sit a bit closer than 1.6x. on live action features, haloing has to be pretty extreme before i get really rankled (a good example would be Warners phosphorescant Giant). but its a different story with animated titles because there is usually a sharply defined black line around any object thats being animated. and to see a white line constantly ringing the black i find to be just supremely annoying. on the subject of dubbing, if it were live action i would much prefer to hear the original soundtrack. however with animation its usually a non issue for me- this is of course assuming the english track is at least competently directed/cast/performed/produced. i'm not really big on hearing identifiable celebrity voice talent though. kind of a distraction. but i would never blanketly dismiss an English language dub for a film that was originally 'dubbed' to begin with.

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Posted February 22 2005 - 05:38 AM

"i'm not really big on hearing identifiable celebrity voice talent though." Good point. Just for the record, the English voice-dubs never really draw attention to themselves...i.e., you don't find yourself going "oh...that's so and so doing that voice" while watching the movie (at least I didn't). Paul, the EE on Nausicaa is a tad more obvious (to me) than what we're seeing on most other Disney animated titles...but still nothing as severe as GIANT or Triplets. Most folks won't notice...but those wide angle viewers like you/me might see it from time to time. BTW, though I *noticed* it...it didn't destroy my pleasure of watching the film, so I hope that helps. -dave
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Posted February 22 2005 - 06:56 AM

Silly question but what -are- the three Studio Ghibli works being released today? Nausicaa, Porco Rosso, and what else?
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Posted February 22 2005 - 07:00 AM

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Posted February 22 2005 - 07:01 AM

Thank you, Edwin-S. Good seeing you on the anime boards Posted Image
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Posted February 22 2005 - 07:09 AM

Thanks for the review David. I hate to admit it but I have never seen Nausicaa before but based on the movie reviews and having loved Princess Mononoke and Spirited Away, I'll buy it blindly.

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Posted February 22 2005 - 08:27 AM



Well, I have been recognising Patrick Stewart's voice in the trailers I've seen, but that's unavoidable when it comes to him. Posted Image I also recognised Cary Elwes' voice in The Cat Returns as well, but his voice fits the character so well that it doesn't bother me.

My personal feeling is that I default to the OL for most things, because even tho subtitles are a compromise, I feel it is less of a compromise, particularly when the English cast does a huge departure from the original part. (Phil Hartman in "Kiki's Delivery's Service") There are some cases where I do prefer the dub (Princess Mononoke, for example.), but that's rare.

Also, a mini-review of "The Cat Returns", since most on here probably haven't seen it. I think it is B-Level Studio hibli, but that's better than most animated features. I think it is a lot of fun, and the english cast seems to nail it. (Haven't listened to the OL yet.) I'd say pick it up.

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Posted February 22 2005 - 02:25 PM

Favorite. MovieFilm. Of. All. Time.

Many folk here who know me will confirm that. Just look at my sig - I've had that same strip down there for going on 2 years, and it ain't changing any time soon.

Nausicaa has been my favorite film since I first saw the butchered English-dub video back in '89 or '90; nothing else has come close ('til Return of the King, which I think, put in the context of the whole Rings trilogy, just barely equals it). It's not that I think it's the best film ever made, it's just that it resonates so powerfully with me that nothing else has been able to shake it. Funny how a string of hand-drawn cels and some 2-channel sound can affect one so deeply. I've seen a couple others from Miyazaki, and I must admit Spirited Away affected me pretty strongly, but Nausicaa still holds a certain magic and epic scope that all of his other works just haven't equaled.

I'm ecstatic Disney has finally opened its vaults on the Studio Ghibli titles, and they've put a good amount of care into this title. Thank you, Mouse, for doing something very right in the past year.

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Posted February 22 2005 - 02:41 PM

I couldn't agree more. What a time to be an animation fan.

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Posted February 22 2005 - 02:45 PM




R3 is NTSC, David... and according to several review sites (of which I thoroughly researched prior to purchase), this beautifully packaged limited Hong Kong collection presents all the Studio Ghibli films in the absolute best image quality.

Here's the link to Play-Asia's listing, though I'm sure a quick Google search on the R3 collection (possibly DVDBeaver as well) would turn up several in-depth reviews.

http://www.play-asia....i-70-973.html#

Yes-Asia listing:

http://global.yesasi....id-1003693536/

DVDTimes:

http://www.dvdtimes....contentid=12113


you can check out a comparisson review of Princess Mononoke here...

http://www.dvdbeaver....ncessmono5.htm

It's one of, if not my most prized box set in my collection.

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Posted February 22 2005 - 02:56 PM

Wow. Those comparisons make the R1 versionof Mononoke look pretty poor next to the R3 version. I plan to do a comparison of the R3 version of Porco Rosso soon and will report any differences observed. I just may have to invest in the R3 set Posted Image Posted Image Posted Image

BTW, from where did you order it?

Just got Porco Rosso review posted:

http://www.hometheat....postid=2580770
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