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DD-EX & DTS-ES encoded movies listing


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#21 of 813 OFFLINE   Troy LaMont

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Posted May 18 2001 - 05:35 AM

Perry,

Thanks for the info, I'm sure it will raise a few eyebrows on the forum.

Chris,

Add the Astronaut's Wife, couldn't find anything on 'Fallen'

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#22 of 813 OFFLINE   DanR

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Posted May 18 2001 - 05:44 AM

If this is regarding theatrical releases. . . how could you guys forget Star Wars Episode I: The Phantom Menace?

I'm sure the DVD will be at least THX-EX (and probably DTS-ES as well).

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#23 of 813 OFFLINE   Troy LaMont

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Posted May 18 2001 - 07:22 AM

Dan,

I guess the title isn't that clear, but it's for DVD releases.

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#24 of 813 OFFLINE   Matthew Chmiel

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Posted May 18 2001 - 07:25 AM

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I thought "Fallen" was in EX but I can't find any info.

Fallen came out a year (IIRC) before DD EX premiered with TPM.

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#25 of 813 OFFLINE   Troy LaMont

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Posted May 18 2001 - 07:26 AM

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#26 of 813 OFFLINE   Troy LaMont

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Posted May 21 2001 - 05:44 AM

Up, up and away!

or bump...

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#27 of 813 OFFLINE   Troy LaMont

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Posted June 13 2001 - 07:05 AM

El Bumparino!

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#28 of 813 OFFLINE   Dan Brecher

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Posted June 13 2001 - 07:13 AM

Unbreakble DVD does not have DTS ES, just standard DTS. The Dolby EX track remains however.

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#29 of 813 OFFLINE   Frank Tran

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Posted June 13 2001 - 09:38 AM

Doesn't the new Cast Away DVD have both DTS ES and DD EX? I don't have the disc with me, but that's what I remember seeing on the case.

#30 of 813 OFFLINE   Lewis Besze

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Posted June 13 2001 - 02:27 PM

Yes, it's already on the list!

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#31 of 813 OFFLINE   chris rick

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Posted June 13 2001 - 02:51 PM

Chicken Run is only dts-es matrixed...just for clarification...read the back of the case for proof....
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#32 of 813 OFFLINE   Dan Hitchman

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Posted June 13 2001 - 03:20 PM

The Chicken Run disc is indeed DTS-ES Discrete 6.1. The cover is misprinted (big surprise).

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Posted June 13 2001 - 04:09 PM

DOH!!! Brain fart!!! Posted Image Sorry...

#34 of 813 OFFLINE   chris rick

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Posted June 14 2001 - 01:51 PM

It is discrete? Huh. I thought it was only matrixed dts es...guess i was wrong. damn dvd packaging....how is it in discrete anyone?
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#35 of 813 OFFLINE   Henry Carmona

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Posted June 14 2001 - 02:41 PM

Awesome list!

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Cheryl Crow - Globe Sessions (coming soon)[/quote]

The Globe Sessions CD has been available for some time now im my neck of the woods, and it is absolutely amazing in ES Discreet!!!!!!

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#36 of 813 OFFLINE   PatrickM

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Posted June 14 2001 - 05:02 PM

Yes, Chicken Run is definitely DTS-ES discrete. I was kind of surprised when I popped it in and the 5800 came up with DTS-ES Discrete.

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Posted June 15 2001 - 01:12 AM

I have a couple of questions. I have a Yamaha RX-V1 that has an ES/EX 6.1 auto-detect feature, but it only automatically catches the discs that are actually labeled as such on the box (i.e. I throw in Terminator 2:UE and it automatically switches to DTS-ES, but if I throw in Hollow Man it doesn't auto-detect, but if I switch to EX, I do hear sounds from the rear center). Why is that? Also, if I put in a non-EX/ES DD5.1 disc, and manually switch the receiver to ES/EX, I think I still hear stuff from the rear center as well. Is it possible that the receiver creates a "fake" rear center channel from the rear signal, or is this just mish-mash junk coming through? Thanks!

#38 of 813 OFFLINE   PatrickM

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Posted June 15 2001 - 03:33 AM

David,

Up until recently only certain discs had the EX or ES flag set. I'm not sure why they didn't previously but more recent ones seem to have it set more often then not but this isn't written in stone.

Within the Denon 5800 manual it states that you should keep the Auto Flag Detect Mode in the off position because of this.

For normal 5.1 material you can still get some information going to the back channels. I don't know exactly about your Yamaha but I believe it just looks at the two side surrounds and any out of phase information is fed to the rear channel as DPL does with its rear surrounds.

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Posted June 15 2001 - 04:03 AM

If Disney follows the theatrical release for the DVD, you can add "Atlantis: The Lost Empire" to the Surround EX list. The specification sheet that comes with each print confirms it.

#40 of 813 OFFLINE   Dan Hitchman

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Posted June 15 2001 - 04:42 AM

Yes, a 6.1 matrix decoder can extract the IN-PHASE signal common to the discrete left and right rear surround channels. That's pretty much what matrix DTS-ES and Dolby Digital EX decoders do is look for the in-phase sounds and route it to the center rear. Official ES and EX soundtracks supposedly do have a bit of out of phase information blended in with the in-phase sounds so that there is less of a collapsing of the soundfield into the center rear speaker.

DTS-ES Discrete 6.1 instead has an actual hard discrete center rear channel with it's own set of full range sound effects, so you get the benefit of far less channel cross-talk and the rear soundfield does not collapse even with very subtle concurrent, multiple left-right/right-left surround panning (like with rain sound effects)-- a killer for matrix surround decoders.

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