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IMO, the worst looking DVD I own is Star Wars Episode II

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#1 of 74 Alma


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Posted April 10 2003 - 02:49 PM

Its true. Do not have an extensive collection but Attack of the Clones looks very soft and muddy, almost blurry. Have heard this is one of the best, if not the best, DVD transfers out there. Have Gladiator, Fifth Element, Shrek and other great looking DVD's that look phenomenal on my HDTV Philips set and the Philips DVDQ50. Have not calibrated my TV but have used the AVIA and Video Essentials disks so DVD's and HDTV cable look very nice. Could it at all be possible the DVD is bad? It doesn't skip or pause/freeze at any point so I am not really sure what the issue can be. I'm almost tempted to purchase another copy just to see if it displays the same symptoms. Anyone care to take a stab at this?

#2 of 74 Charles J P

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Posted April 10 2003 - 03:01 PM

I heard that GL purposefully softened the movie because it was filmed digitally and he wanted to make it look more filmlike. Perhaps he was unable to achieve a realistic film "effect".

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Posted April 10 2003 - 03:05 PM

Not sure what all the hype is than. Looks really bad IMO.
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#4 of 74 Matt Stone

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Posted April 10 2003 - 03:11 PM

Worst looking DVD I own.

Than you probably must not own too many DVDs. Posted Image

I know others have complained about the soft transfer before, but I doubt many of them would say it is the "wost looking DVD" ever.

BTW, this should be in the software forum, and we've had multiple discussions about it.
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Posted April 10 2003 - 03:15 PM

Sorry, should have done a search first.

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Posted April 10 2003 - 03:57 PM

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Posted April 10 2003 - 04:08 PM

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Posted April 10 2003 - 04:22 PM

Looks great on my setup.
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Posted April 10 2003 - 04:42 PM

I agree with the initial poster. I was looking forward to the most pristine DVD experience ever when I purchased ATOC and I was dissapointed to say the least. In terms of the transfer, I can not say that it is the worst DVD that I have ever viewed as I have been collecting since 1998. However, it is definitely very soft when viewing on my 57" Toshiba.

The worst transfer I have ever seen FROM A MAJOR STUDIO was the first DVD release of Highlander.

I realize that this has probably been covered many times but for the sake of this thread I will state the following. Folks that have large progressive scan displays see so much more texture than the average viewer. I know that my HDTV has made me much more critical of anything on any televison HD or not.

The saving grace of the ATOC DVD was the audio. When I demo the Darth Sidious fight at the end of the movie my guests are always impressed. Some have even commented that they heard other HT's before and were not impressed until this demo. If not for the amazing mix I definitely would have been extremely dissapointed.
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Posted April 10 2003 - 05:20 PM

I don't think it's the worst looking DVD by far, but I think the transfer could have been better. I'm using my PS2 and a component cable hookup and during some darkly lit scenes, the fireplace scene in particular, I notice a lot of artifacting. I've seen Quicktime movies with better resolution than that particular scene. I've often wondered that since the movie was shot digitally, maybe it should have been spread over 2 discs to get the optimum picture clarity instead of putting the feature on one disc. That's my uneducated theory on the matter anyway. In some ways I think The Phantom Menace has better image quality.

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Posted April 10 2003 - 05:41 PM

Looks amazing on mine. Yeh it's soft, but have you seen some of these others movies transfers?

I mean Signs has some terrible video noise in numerous scenes. So does the phantom menance. AOTC has none of this.

#12 of 74 Jeff Kleist

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Posted April 10 2003 - 05:45 PM

Gary, the problems you're seeing in the fireplace scene are from what I've seen mostly limitations of the cameras.

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Posted April 10 2003 - 06:06 PM

Well in that case that's the particular area in which digital cameras suck and I understand why certain filmmakers like Spielberg aren't going for it. I think the process involved in the actual making of movies on celluloid lends itself much better to filming dark scenes like that compared to the digital version. Chemicals are much more foregiving when it comes to low levels of light than digital bits.

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Posted April 10 2003 - 07:33 PM

Worst DVD transfer I own of a recent movie that should look good is Scarface.

Best DVD transfer I own of a recent movie is a tie. Lord of the Rings: Fellowship of the Ring and Mystery Science Theater 3000: The Movie. Spiderman is no slouch either but it didn't make me marvel at the picture during any portion of it.

Now LOTR you could figure should be good. But given the general disdain MST3k: The Movie has been given (by non-fans) I was absolutely floored by how good it looked. Closest thing to hi-def I've ever seen on my HDTV.
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Posted April 10 2003 - 08:08 PM

AOTC looks fantastic on a properly calibrated digital tube TV with a top end progressive scan player. Amongst the best I've seen.

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Posted April 10 2003 - 11:22 PM

I agree with Greg. Looks incredible on my 36" XBR and RP-82. I would be willing to say in the top 2 or 3 disks I own.

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Posted April 10 2003 - 11:37 PM

But given the general disdain MST3k: The Movie has been given (by non-fans) I was absolutely floored by how good it looked. Closest thing to hi-def I've ever seen on my HDTV.

...and it's not even 16x9-enhanced, if I remember correctly. (Don't have the disc myself.)

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Posted April 11 2003 - 12:06 AM

Yeah, Star Wars I and Star Wars II are the worst movies ever and the worst video and audio quality ever! Posted Image

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Posted April 11 2003 - 01:53 AM

Then you should check out The Quiet Man for a ghastly studio release.

The hands-down worst transfer ever is Magical Mystery Tour, which looks utterly miserable and other than the songs (which seem to be inserted from the album) the dialogue is completely unintelligible.

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Posted April 11 2003 - 02:55 AM

It seems some are confusing a bad looking film with a bad looking transfer/DVD.

If the DVD version accuratly represents the film, then the transfer could be said to be excellent, even if the film itself looks bad.

Does AOTC look a bit soft? Yes. But I suspect this is the way the original film looks and not the result of a "poor transfer".

As far as ATOC being the worst looking DVD, whether because of the original film or the transfer process, I do not agree. I've seen other DVDs where the original film looked bad AND the transfer was bad. ATOC may not be the absolute best, but it's far from being the worst.

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