David Weicker
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It wouldn't be the first time Criterion ventured into television. They did do a release of Tanner '88 David
And it was the only time that they'll do it, since obviously there are no other TV shows that they find worthy enough like Tanner '88 to put on DVD.David Weicker said:It wouldn't be the first time Criterion ventured into television. They did do a release of Tanner '88 David
Certainly the Crucifixion in Passion of the Christ was the most intense; but at the time, the depiction in Jesus of Nazareth was the most realistic to date. I remember reading that Robert Powell insisted on carrying a real weight cross beam instead of the usual balsa wood replica. The nailing, and hoisting up by ropes as Powell screamed in agony added a dimension of pain and suffering that was always missing in previous versions. The subjective camera angles as he carried the cross through the crowd added a sense of disorientation that had always been lacking. And to have Laurence Olivier as Nicodemus watching over the Crucifixion while reciting Isaiah 53 showed that he saw the meaning of the event while communicating it to the viewer. Previous cinematic depictions of the Crucifixion shied away from realism and sought to portray the event in a formal, overly tasteful manner while minimizing Christ's suffering. I agree with your assessment of the earlier "Life of Christ" films. The Greatest Story Ever Told started out magnificently, and works very well for me up through the Baptism scene. The 1961 King of Kings is too much of Pilate and Herod Antipas strutting about chewing scenery for my taste. Another film I liked was The Gospel of John. It suffered from a low budget and some poor supporting actors and extras; but Henry Ian Cusick was great as Christ, as was Christopher Plummer as the narrator.Jack P said:I rate Jesus Of Nazareth among the best, but I would just say in fairness that overall as a work of cinema, I still give the edge to "Passion Of The Christ" for its greater realism regarding the Crucifixion and also the more historically accurate depiction of Pilate (Steiger's performance and the way the part was written was all off IMO). "The Greatest Story Ever Told" I think also works from a cinematic standpoint. Not so the 1961 "King Of KIngs" with its overly fictional narrative (but glorious Miklos Rozsa score) and the less said about Scorcese or the dreadful 1999 TV-movie the better. To me the telling of the story is important enough to sustain several good versions overall and Jesus Of Nazareth along with the two best cinematic versions I think in the end collectively do justice to the meaning of the story in key ways. The lesser films are the ones that fail to deliver on those points.
I think Criterion also released a disc of early live TV classics, like Rod Serling's Patterns, Requiem For a Heavyweight, etc. I really cannot see Criterion doing Jesus of Nazareth myself. Besides, it needs to be available to larger market than it would be as a $40 special edition.Sky Captain said:And it was the only time that they'll do it, since obviously there are no other TV shows that they find worthy enough like Tanner '88 to put on DVD.
That they considered something highly forgettable that was seen by a niche crowd of the highest order, perhaps says something more about their own standards than whether or not something is worthy of such treatment. Some of their movie choices (Armageddon, The Rock) make it clear that their own standards of what is quality can leave much to be desired.Sky Captain said:And it was the only time that they'll do it, since obviously there are no other TV shows that they find worthy enough like Tanner '88 to put on DVD.
That was a great touch, as was having the centurion at the cross (Borgnine) be the same one whose servant had been healed. The one Scriptural sequence that did not appear that IMO should have was when Pilate sends Jesus back to Herod Antipas. I would have wanted to have seen a scene between Powell and Plummer and without it makes the whole storyline regarding the character of Antipas come to an abrupt halt. Antipas incidentally is the one thing I felt Passion Of The Christ got horribly wrong even as they got Pilate brilliantly right. The foppish effete Antipas of Passion is much too young whereas Plummer's interpretation was spot-on. We do know that Zefirrelli filmed a temptation in the desert scene but cut it from the final version because he had trouble getting it to work within the naturalistic tone of the rest of the film. Too bad since that would have been interesting to see.David_B_K said:And to have Laurence Olivier as Nicodemus watching over the Crucifixion while reciting Isaiah 53 showed that he saw the meaning of the event while communicating it to the viewer. Previous cinematic depictions of the Crucifixion shied away from realism and sought to portray the event in a formal, overly tasteful manner while minimizing Christ's suffering.
Those choices were because they felt that the movies in question contained something somewhat beyond the ordinary; in the case of Armageddon the planet being threatened by a large asteroid (which was carried off a bit better than in similar movies like Meteor) and in the case of The Rock, a story about heroism and sacrifice carried out by great actors (you'd have to talk to somebody at Criterion about these choices, and also watch the supplementary materiel on the DVD's in question to figure out what makes these films-the only blockbuster action films chosen by the company so far, mind you-so good that Criterion would chose them.) All of this, however, is moot; aside from a few old televised versions of plays, Criterion isn't going to put other shows on DVD by themselves (and believe me, I tried to suggest to Criterion that they do put some old early-to-mid '60's TV shows on DVD [East Side/West Side, The Eleventh Hour, Breaking Point, Slattery's People-the letter went unanswered.]) The company's only going to do what it wants to do, and that's it. Have you tried Shout Factory?Jack P said:That they considered something highly forgettable that was seen by a niche crowd of the highest order, perhaps says something more about their own standards than whether or not something is worthy of such treatment. Some of their movie choices (Armageddon, The Rock) make it clear that their own standards of what is quality can leave much to be desired.
Those choices were because they felt that the movies in question contained something somewhat beyond the ordinary; in the case of Armageddon the planet being threatened by a large asteroid (which was carried off a bit better than in similar movies like Meteor) and in the case of The Rock, a story about heroism and sacrifice carried out by great actors (you'd have to talk to somebody at Criterion about these choices, and also watch the supplementary materiel on the DVD's in question to figure out what makes these films-the only blockbuster action films chosen by the company so far, mind you-so good that Criterion would chose them.) All of this, however, is moot; aside from a few old televised versions of plays, Criterion isn't going to put other shows on DVD by themselves (and believe me, I tried to suggest to Criterion that they do put some old early-to-mid '60's TV shows on DVD [East Side/West Side, The Eleventh Hour, Breaking Point, Slattery's People-the letter went unanswered.]) The company's only going to do what it wants to do, and that's it. Have you tried Shout Factory?Jack P said:That they considered something highly forgettable that was seen by a niche crowd of the highest order, perhaps says something more about their own standards than whether or not something is worthy of such treatment. Some of their movie choices (Armageddon, The Rock) make it clear that their own standards of what is quality can leave much to be desired.
Those choices were because they felt that the movies in question contained something somewhat beyond the ordinary; in the case of Armageddon the planet being threatened by a large asteroid (which was carried off a bit better than in similar movies like Meteor) and in the case of The Rock, a story about heroism and sacrifice carried out by great actors (you'd have to talk to somebody at Criterion about these choices, and also watch the supplementary materiel on the DVD's in question to figure out what makes these films-the only blockbuster action films chosen by the company so far, mind you-so good that Criterion would chose them.) All of this, however, is moot; aside from a few old televised versions of plays, Criterion isn't going to put other shows on DVD by themselves (and believe me, I tried to suggest to Criterion that they do put some old early-to-mid '60's TV shows on DVD [East Side/West Side, The Eleventh Hour, Breaking Point, Slattery's People-the letter went unanswered.]) The company's only going to do what it wants to do, and that's it. Have you tried Shout Factory?Jack P said:That they considered something highly forgettable that was seen by a niche crowd of the highest order, perhaps says something more about their own standards than whether or not something is worthy of such treatment. Some of their movie choices (Armageddon, The Rock) make it clear that their own standards of what is quality can leave much to be desired.
Fremantle doesn't own any rights to ITC properties; most of those are owned by ITV Global Limited (the successor-in-interest to ITC/ATV and Carlton Media, which acquired the assets of ITC/ATV/Carlton a while ago.Also being an ITC production (helmed by Sir Lew Grade, who certainly knew how to put an all star cast together), I think whoever owns the rights to their tv properties these days (Fremantle Media?) would do their own Criterion-callibre special edition, and flabbergasted as they haven't done so already. Most of the ITC movies that have come out on bluray ("The Boys From Brazil", "Capricorn One", "Escape from Athena" etc) have come out in beautiful transfers, albeit with very few extras.
Could this actually be the 6hr+ version, which was broadcast in time slots totalling 8 hours with commercials included? The original 1977 NBC broadcast totalled 6 hours including commercials; 3 hours on Palm Sunday, 3 hours on Easter Sunday. Later broadcasts were usually 8 hours (4 nights with 2 hours each), incorporating more material than what was in the initial broadcast. On some blogs and message boards on the web, you'll see references to versions up to 10 hours long, including scenes that people "remember" which were never even filmed (at least they weren't according to Zeffirelli)...philip*eric said:and what about the supposed near 8 hour version Ive heard mentioned - does it exist???