I agree it's filthy, but I just don't understand the rationale that those sex acts, which are between two consenting characters, are unacceptable but seeing Susan Sarandon literally liquified into a pool of blood after falling from a balcony is completely fine.
Alright, if I may say something here, I finally picked this (unrated version) up on Wednesday and just finished watching it with my brother. Now, I have seen some pretty sick shit in my 32 years on this planet, but none as bizarre and utterly twisted as this!
Is this good or bad? Both, but mostly bad. It will take weeks if not months for me to stop having nightmares about that sex scene! We were laughing at it, but not because it was funny, but from sheer shock at what we were seeing with our own eyes! Two little plastic people girating and....(((((SHUDDER!!!!)))))
The film is about 97% sick and vulgar and only the remaining 3% was actually funny. The vulgarity I can deal with , to an extent, after awhile it was being vulgar for the hell of it with no rhyme or reason for it.
What I say next may make some angry at me, but I must say it for honesty's sake, Trey Parker and Matt Stone are truly and utterly without talent, harsh I know, but this is how I feel. To them "F**k this and F**k that!" equals funny, and in most comedies it does, but they take it waaaaayyyy too far.
Far be it for me to play the stuffed shirt role, but ths film was pure trash, it was visually striking because of the puppets and miniature sets, but trash nontheless. I had thought i'd seen it all and that nothing could phase me...I was wrong on both counts.
Greg, if it were a straight parody as films like Airplane, Top Secret and Hot Shots 1 & Deux were, it would have been great, I love a good parody. They poke innocent fun at their prospected targets.
Parker and Stone however have a genuine hatred for the people they are parodying in the film that makes the proceedings take a nasty turn towards the mean side of things.
Plus, as I said, the film was just down right sick.
john i think you were on target with your opinion of the movie. you expanded on what i posted, "if it didnt have "puppets" and all the cursing i dont think there would have been too much to this movie."
I don't want to speak for him, Bill, but what I think he means is the film as it stands right now is just a vulgar mess BUT rendered just this side of special because it's with puppets rather than people, that is it's only "hook". If the same film had been done with human actors, we would be left only with just a vulgar mess without the delight of seeing puppets.
my point. take out the puppets and put people in and there is no movie or it's unwatchable.
with puppets, at least it has that to keep you interested until it becomes over the top unfunny and pointlessly vulgar. plus if you take the lasers, ships and aliens out of star wars it still could have a pretty interesting story, because all that isnt just a gimmick.
Is it even possible to have a decent conversation here anymore?
I have very rarely turned off a film half way through, and since it was my first time I wanted to finish it, and as I said there were sporadic funny moments in it.
I watched it, and what I have written is my opinion of it, that's pretty much how personal reviews work.
Funny, that's exactly what I thought of, Pink Flamingoes, how everybody was *sooooo* disgusted by it when it came out. And now it's nothing. OK, it's still a bit gross if you're sensitive, but that was real people doing the same thing. Obviously these people here didn't watch PF. Sometimes what was disgusting 30+ years ago is accepted as the "norm" today, sometimes it's not... (I don't like this kind of behavior myself, but laugh now as I did then, it takes all types, etc...)
Now where's my damn disk, I ordered it online before the release date and still waiting.
But, as I did mention in response to other people's comments, humor is one of the more personal emotions. I have as much a right to dislike it as you have to like it. It's got nothing to do with being "eluded" by anything.
And if "subtlety" is a word you would use to describe this brand of humor, I'd hate to see "over-the-top." Harsh language and bodily excretions are not the tools of comic geniuses. They are the tools of hacks who can't get a laugh any other way than the gross-out joke. When you're incapable of sophisticated humor, you go for the guttural response. You know... the gag reflex that sort of escapes as an uncomfortable laugh.
That's my opinion of this "subtle" humor - and I'm sticking with it. Nuff said.