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This reminds me of the first time I saw the 1989 restoration. I took a day off work to see the first showing at the AMC Glen Lakes in Dallas. They had decorated the halls with sheets to make it look like the inside of a tent. The attendants wore costumes. It made the experience that much more memorable.

Now bring on the blu-ray!
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Wow truly amazing intro.

 

Where was this ?

 

Can't wait

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Wow truly amazing intro.

 

Where was this ?

 

Can't wait


Alexandra Palace, North London.

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Fantastic.

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What a great experience that would be.

 

Had the pleasure of seeing the 70mm restored print at the Bell TIFF Lightbox Theatre this month.

 

Everyone should have a chance to see this wonderful film in this format. All other presentations pale in comparison.

 

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I'm still energized by my three or four 1989 viewings at the Century Plaza (may it Rest In Peace) in L.A. -- my reference experience to date. 

 

Wait, how many years ago was that?

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I'm still energized by my three or four 1989 viewings at the Century Plaza (may it Rest In Peace) in L.A. -- my reference experience to date. 

 

Wait, how many years ago was that?


 

That was my very first movie going experience after moving to Southern California.  The film was breathtaking, as fine a movie presentation as I've ever seen.

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I'm still energized by my three or four 1989 viewings at the Century Plaza (may it Rest In Peace) in L.A. -- my reference experience to date. 

 

Wait, how many years ago was that?


That would have been the Plitt.  A particularly chilly February in 1989.

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Without a doubt -- if I had to pick only one -- my single greatest experience at the Plitt.  Fabulous theaters, as I recall.  Especially the large one, of course.

 

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They used to show Lawrence in 70mm pretty regularly at Cinesphere - the very first IMAX screen - in Toronto. I saw it there several times and wish they still showed classics there.

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For me... the Uptown in DC in 1989 in 70mm.  Truly superb presentation on their huge curved screen and an appreciative audience.  Sadly the Uptown recently abandoned film projection entirely and has gone fully to digital projection. From all reports the results have been less than stellar. 

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I saw it during its original theatrical run at the Criterion in New York City when I was in high school. It was a class trip!

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That would have been the Plitt.  A particularly chilly February in 1989.



That was the very month!  But it didn't seem chilly to me, probably because it was 15 below in Denver a few weeks before.

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I was to move east a few months later.  One of those nights, I ate with friends at the then-new west coast outpost of the Stage Deli, in Century City, prior to taking them to the film.  They liked movies, though in a casual sense, and it was not only their first time to see LoA, but their first taste of a roadshow 70mm production.  They were properly blown away by both.  It was an "occasion" for them, as these things should be.  Now you've got me thinking I remember it being chilly, too.  Maybe if I could just recall what I was wearing...

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I first saw the Restoration in London at the Odeon Marble Arch in the company of Sir David, Robert Bolt and several others who had made the picture.  I'm sure Robert Harris would have been there as well. It turned out to be a controversial screening because this particular cinema had the only surviving deep-curve screen in London.  It was never a Cinerama theatre but had been designed for D-150 presentations and I just loved seeing movies on that huge screen, which was actually used quite rarely as the fashion for 70mm faded. Anyway, Lawrence burst on to this incredible screen and I thought the whole experience was unforgettable.  Unfortunately, Sir David didn't.  He hated the way the curve affected the horizons in the film and created all sorts of other distortions and so - and this is POWER - he got Columbia to dismantle the screen and instal a regular flat screen instead.  Aesthetically Sir David was quite right; a pity he killed London's most spectacular cinema as well.  

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And yet more suggestions of things Lawrence to do whilst biding one's time:

 

Read Michael Korda's new book, Hero.  Brilliant!

 

Read Eddie Fowlie's just released book, David Lean's Dedicated Maniac.  Mr. Fowlie, unfortunately just passed away.  He was one of DL's best friends,

and his location and property guru for three decades.  A great read.

 

Read the uncut 1922 version of TEL's Seven Pillars of Wisdom, available via Michael Wilson's Castle Hill Press.

Also suggested is The Mint.

 

http://www.castlehillpress.com/publications/2009_mint_1928_LF.shtml

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I saw the 70mm restoration on its original (restoration) run at the Cinerama in Seattle when I was visiting. Since I moved up to Seattle, I've seen it again in 70mm, again at the Cinerama. It comes back around every few years. And I'm getting itchy to see it again. In 70mm, of course.

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I saw Lawrence of Arabia (and Ben-Hur, Casablanca, Gone With the Wind, and Terminator 2) at the IMAX in Indianapolis around 1998 when they showed a festival of film favorites. It was awesome seeing it on the IMAX screen!

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Read Eddie Fowlie's just released book, David Lean's Dedicated Maniac.  Mr. Fowlie, unfortunately just passed away.  He was one of DL's best friends,

and his location and property guru for three decades.  A great read.

 

So sorry to learn about Eddie. An amazing man, an even more amazing life, and one of the cinema's unsung heroes.  It was a privilege to have met him on a few occasions.  

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Read Eddie Fowlie's just released book, David Lean's Dedicated Maniac.  Mr. Fowlie, unfortunately just passed away.  He was one of DL's best friends,

and his location and property guru for three decades.  A great read.

 

So sorry to learn about Eddie. An amazing man, an even more amazing life, and one of the cinema's unsung heroes.  It was a privilege to have met him on a few occasions.  


 


Those who may not be versed in pre-production and production, may not fully understand, but Mr. Fowlie, affected more films in major ways during this career than one might imagine.   One might consider the director, cinematographer, production designer, but it was Eddie who found some of the most important locations and created some of the most memorable sets in our memory.  Mr. Turner is fully aware of this.

 

RAH

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There's a theatre in my area that has a couple of Century JJ 35/70s.  I'm in touch with the theatre's owners, and hope soon to have a plan for restoring the theatre's 70mm functionality.  It seems much of the hardware is in place, just a matter of making sure everything can properly handle and project a 70mm print with maximum quality, and protection against damage.

 

My goal is to screen Lawrence of Arabia in 70mm for it's 50th Anniversary, in 2012 or 2013!

 

BR

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RE: 

 

"Read the uncut 1922 version of TEL's Seven Pillars of Wisdom, available via Michael Wilson's Castle Hill Press.

Also suggested is The Mint."

 

 

The Mint is an amazing book; strongly recommended from this corner. Don't know if Norton still has it in print, but they printed it in paper in the early 70s, when I read it (as an undergraduate), and have not forgotten it. What a strange man Laurence (Aircraftman Shaw) was, but what a great writer. Still have not got around to Seven Pillars, so perhaps that will have to wait upon retirement, along with all the other things one wants to do but hasn't the time for. Incidentally, Laurence shows up briefly in Robert Graves memoir, Goodbye to All That, looking for odd and out of the way words to put into Seven Pillars. World War One seems so incredibly far away now, not just in time, but in terms of attitudes, assumptions. I feel that Lean and Bolt were probably closer to that world than anyone can ever be again, since their generation was what? about one and half after the WWI soldiers? Looking forward to the eventual blu-ray of LOA.

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For those who need a push toward acquiring a copy of Mr. Fowlie's book, the following extract re: Bridge on the River Kwai may whet the appetite:

 

 

The famous scene of the bridge blowing up and the train careening to its destruction was real, not a mockup.  We only got one shot at it, understandably, as there wasn’t enough time or money to build another bridge.  Inside the carriages I had 300 rubber Japanese soldiers placed with guns, in case the carriages burst open. A demolition company from the UK came over to demolish the bridge following David’s strict instructions. The explosion had to look real and last long enough to get sufficient footage.

 

There were many points to consider, not the least the angle at which the train should fall.  It was also made very clear that there should be no flames, smoke or far-fetched fireballs.  In real life, when a building is brought down with explosives if collapses in almost slow motion instead of exploding in a hail of flames and debris (this is a point missed on many modern film directors who are invariably obsessed with creating ridiculous, computer enhanced blasts).  We positioned five cameras in five different points to give the editing crew a variety of angles to choose from.  Each had to switch the trigger light on the control panel, giving a signal to the director that the camera was running the operator was safe.  There was another light which the train driver had to operate when he jumped off at the crucial moment before the explosives were detonated.  The main control panel was located at a safe distance from the main camera with David close by.  At the far end of the bridge there was a long track, with an uphill gradient leading to a sand trap.  This was intended to stop the unmanned train in the unlikely event that the bridge had not been blown up. Everybody in their places, the order was given to start the operation.  Four lights came on and then the driver’s.  As the train came onto the bridge, David suddenly spotted that one of the lights had not been switched on and did not give the order to detonate.  The train shot over the bridge at full speed, up the gradient and through the sand drag, collecting a big truck and the generator along the way.  Peter and I were the first on the scene and found the steaming train sitting upright, it wheels dug deep in the jungle floor.

 

After a few minutes Sam turned up in his car.  It was difficult to gauge his reaction, but he was either in deep shock or dead calm.  I have to admit to feeling admiration for him as he uttered his first words to us. “My boys, how long before we get it ready again?” With all the right railway equipment and workers it didn’t take long to slip some track under it and shunt it back.  It wasn’t all tickety-boo, though.   After Sam left us, he marched back and summarily fired the camera operator who had failed to turn on his light switch, even though his camera had been running. He was an experienced and well-known operator, whom David knew and trusted.  Unfazed by the poor man’s blunder, David quietly reinstated him and him and took him out to dinner that same night. After the nerve jangling experience, we were all even more wary of making any further mistakes. 

 

To my surprise, David asked me to drive the train for the second attempt. Apparently, the driver had got cold feet about driving the thing.  Relieved he would no longer be risking his life, he was more than happy to give me a crash course on how to drive the locomotive to oblivion.  I had the light switch and the sandbag shelter in which I was to dive when I bailed out moved almost to the beginning of the bridge.  This gave me a few more precious seconds to jam the throttle lever open once I had set the right speed.  It also gave me a pretty good close-up view of the bridge going down.  Getting the timing right was a matter of life and death.  Too late and I would end up in pieces amid tons of twisted wreckage at the bottom of the river; too early and we would ruin the shot.  I set off inside the train, and this time I had the unique view from the driver’s cabin, looking down on the river some thirty metres below as the bridge rushed up to meet me.  The train picked up speed and I waited to the last possible moment before jamming the lever.  I dived on the sandbags and watched as the train clattered by, followed by an almighty bang as the dynamite went off.  In an instant, the bridge which had taken us months to construct collapsed in a twisted heap.  Still breathless, I shook myself down and looked down below, feeling mixed emotions.  I was relieved the operation had been a success but also felt a twinge of sadness at seeing all the destruction.  We had one final “special effects” scene in which the commandos were to set the explosive charges to the bridge support.  We shot it during the day and filtered the lens to make it look like night time.  Setting up the dynamite was fine and as I surfaced I saw David looking down on me, smiling. By the glint in his eye, I knew what he was thinking.  

 

“Bloody millionaires stuff!” I remarked - we were just grown-up boys after all, playing games with loads of cash.

 

Many years later, while staying in a hotel in Westwood Village in LA, I went for a drink in the bar noticed a frail-looking man hunched on the chair at a corner table. He looked over and suddenly stood up and walked over to me. “Your Eddie,” he said with a smile.  Surprised that this man knew my name and curious as to who he was, I struggled to recognize him but I was saved my blushes.  He thrust his hand out and introduced himself.  “It’s me, Bill Holden.”  I was shocked. The ravages of time and alcohol has sadly taken their toll on him, but I tried to not let it show my face.  I greeted him warmly and gave the impression that I had recognized him.  What amazed me even more is that he knew who I was despite my hair having gone entirely white since I had seen him last.  I never saw him again and was deeply saddened when I heard a few years later that he died in such a sad and lonely circumstances.  The death of Burt Lancaster also affected me in a similar way.  Both actors were larger than life individuals. 

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Whetted.  It's in my cart.

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"My rare visits to the cinema always deepen in me a sense of their superficial falsity. The camera seems wholly in place as journalism; but when it tries to recreate, it boobs and sets my teeth on edge. So there won't be a film of me."

T.E. Lawrence. 1935.  :)

 

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Would love to get Eddie Fowlie's book! He was there on nearly every major motion picture from Britain, even quite a few that were not David Lean films. The man in interviews has an amazing sense of humor, I hope I'm that wry at the age.

 

On a side note, I just received my copy of the new complete score of LAWRENCE released on Tadlow Music CDs, with Nic Raine conducting! (since the original music slates were thrown out by Columbia in the 70's, only a few cues from the album and the end titles, pulled right from the film, could be used as a soundtrack CD).I was moved to tears by it, the sonics are lush and gorgeous, all the exotic orchestral color can be heard and they even had choruses sing the war chant, both men and women. A glorious album with wonderful liner notes and a great bonus CD that every LOA fan should have. I cannot praise it enough.

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Sounds neat.  Anyone know a decent US source for that?

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I saw Lawrence of Arabia (and Ben-Hur, Casablanca, Gone With the Wind, and Terminator 2) at the IMAX in Indianapolis around 1998 when they showed a festival of film favorites. It was awesome seeing it on the IMAX screen!



I saw those there too!  I mentioned seeing LoA there at the time on some online forum (I think not this one?), and Mr. Harris wrote back to me thanking me for saying how great it looked and that he wasn't aware the restored LoA had been showing in Indy.

 

Like some others, I also first saw it in 1989-- at the wonderful Virginia Theatre in Champaign, IL.

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I saw Lawrence of Arabia (and Ben-Hur, Casablanca, Gone With the Wind, and Terminator 2) at the IMAX in Indianapolis around 1998 when they showed a festival of film favorites. It was awesome seeing it on the IMAX screen!



I saw those there too!  I mentioned seeing LoA there at the time on some online forum (I think not this one?), and Mr. Harris wrote back to me thanking me for saying how great it looked and that he wasn't aware the restored LoA had been showing in Indy.

 

Like some others, I also first saw it in 1989-- at the wonderful Virginia Theatre in Champaign, IL.

Which has been, as I recall, the theater used for EbertFest.

 

RAH
 

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