Terminator 2 HD DVD beats T2 Blu-Ray!? (1 Viewer)

[Robert George]

...we would be wun over with wabbits.

 

[Jim_K]

So what bonus features are included with this? Any Docs, commentaries? If so are they in French or English? Forced/optional subs on the bonus material? Also is the alternate ending included as a deleted scene?

Given the lack of releases over the summer I might consider this down the road if I don't hear of Lionsgate prepping an Ultimate Edition type BD.

 

[Jari K]

I believe there are no extras. This is the story with most of the "Studio Canal" HD DVD-releases.

 

[ppltd]

 

[Jim_K]

Thanks for the info. So the cheapest I found was $33 + shipping for what's basically a barebones edition. Hmm.... Makes the average $27 Fox barebones BD's look like a bargain in comparison.



I'll have to mull this one over. Maybe the U.K. edition will be cheaper.

 

[Cees Alons]

No: a 2-disc edition!


Cees

 

[ppltd]

The Studio Canal release referenced is the UK Version. The dual disk version SP is the French version, which exploitedcinema.com is currently shipping.

 

[Cees Alons]

And Amazon-dot-fr!


Cees

 

[RobertR]

I didn't see a discussion of the PAL sound speedup issue in the thread. Does the French disc have the sound speedup?

 

[Cees Alons]

Robert,

No we didn't discuss it here, but we certainly discussed it elsewhere.

There is no PAL speedup, because there is no PAL.
Those are exactly the same tracks you could get on a US release - which wouldn't be NTSC either.


Cees

 

[RobertR]

Thanks Cees.

 

[Jeff Adkins]

OK. Perhaps I'll rephrase the question: Is the audio pitch the same as found on the Lions Gate BD?

 

[RobertR]

Yes, that is a better phrasing, Jeff. I have read that there are pitch differences.

 

[Dave Mack]

Correct. It's not PAL speedup per se, but reportedly SC used PAL audio masters that were apparently made for DVD (which were sped up) instead of making a new audio mixand then digitally slowed them down. The pitch is 1/2 step high, just like the difference in a PAL transfer on some titles...

 

[ppltd]

Hopefully, this is an practice that will go by the wayside.

 

[Sean Bryan]

Ah, if the pitch is screwed up then I think I'll just wait for a while and see if Lions Gate releases a better edition on BD in the near future.

I love the movie, but I can wait. That's too bad.

 

[ScottJH]

There is no pitch issue with the Studio Canal HD DVD of T2.

 

[Cees Alons]

THE PITCH IS NOT SCREWED UP!

Hmmm, perhaps that's clear enough.


Cees

 

[RobertR]

I read differing views on this. You say there isn't, others say there is. If it's a matter of lack of pitch sensitivity, that's one thing, but it sounds like some people are hearing it. Or are they hearing what isn't there (that's been known to happen)?

 

[Cees Alons]

It's impossible to use a sped-up PAL audio master and play it next to a 1080p/24 or even 1080p/60 video track of the movie. The audio would almost immediately get out of sync.

If they would use a PAL master and slow it down to synchronize with the film, it would no longer be higher pitched.

The audio on the French T2 is DTS-HD Master. That even didn't exist before anywhere. So in reality it must be a new track, made for this release.


Cees