Some news for you 1492 fans

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  1. trajan

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    I just received an e-mail from Concorde video[Germany] that the 1492 bluray coming in September will indeed be region free.
     
  2. ricktech12

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    Awesome, the France Blu-ray was a huge letdown because of the hertz issue despite being region free it wouldn't play on most Region A Blu-ray players. I hope this is a new HD video transfer done by Concorde and not ported over from the France Blu-ray, some special features would be nice. The films 20th anniversary is in October it looks doubtful it will be released on either DVD or Blu-ray in the USA market, but this will have to do.
     
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    Rented the movie on Netflix a while ago--
    It's one thing to look at the movie and say "Uh, y'know, Columbus never actually DID clash with the Spanish Inquisition..." (There's no historical account of it except for Nathaniel Hawthorne's fictionally embellished retelling, and Hawthorne always did have a literary bug against the New England Puritans.)
    But to actually take it a step farther and make "Columbus versus the repressive thinking of the Old World" the central thematic metaphor of the story....no. That's just Wrong Squared. :rolleyes:
     
  4. ricktech12

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    I don't care about if it's historically accurate or not, I like Depardieu as an actor and think Ridley Scott is an amazing director, it also helps it had a great cast, score, costume designs, etc. IMO a well made film about Columbus, it doesn't matter to me or not if they got it 100 percent accurate because it's someones elses vision/interpretation of historical events and it worked for me.
     
  5. Ernest

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    1492 is is very entertaining and like many historical movies is not historical correct. Columbus was very well educated and keep written records of his experiences. All of Columbus's written records are in Spanish not Italian. Based on Columbus's writings historians believe he was Spanish, maybe Jewish, and bank rolled by wealthy Spaniards looking for a New World.
    The nick name "Indians" was coined by Columbus when he meet the indigenous people on his first voyage. He thought he was in India so he called them "Indians". The name stuck. Unlike Troy, Columbus lived in a time when written records were kept so we do know many facts about his journey. Unfortunately, there is little about Columbus before his epic journey so we will never really know the complete story.
    Nevertheless, Ridley made a very enjoyable movie that flopped at the box office. It was not a bad movie the general public was not interested in a period piece about Columbus. Maybe a longer version would develop the story and characters better as we saw with Kingdom of Heaven.
    I would think the German version is the same as the French Blu-Ray because it would be to expensive to transfer the movie again. The French Blu-Ray is 1080i/50 and was reported as Region "B". I haven't received my copy yet and when I do I will confirm the Region. Region-Free Blu-Rays normally have a logo on the back of the packaging showing "ABC". If the region is designated you will need a Blu-Ray player that allows you to select the Region A, B or C. Region-free Blu-Ray players also play 1080i/50 the interlaced international standard.
     
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    Actually, that's another popular misconception: South American natives aren't properly called "Indians", they're "Indios".
    Back during Ferdinand and Isabella's day, when Spain was a Catholic-fundamentalist country wanting to spread their Conquistadors as far as possible, the wishful dream of every missionary mission was that somewhere in the unexplored regions of the world was an unspoiled "second Eden" of perfectly happy and peaceful natives who weren't "savages" but lived an idyllic all-natural existence and wouldn't dream of war or rebellion, and weren't aware that they were just waiting to hear that one bit of Christianity to make their lil' Oompa-Loompa lives complete.
    Spain was as eagerly interested in finding that in a resource-rich region as they were in trade routes, and funded Columbus with the hopes of finding happy barefoot natives living naturally "in God"..."In Dios".
     
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    I agree with your thoughts on the film, the 2 Columbus films were released for the 500th anniversary of Columbus's discoverys in 1992 but little did Hollywood know no one really cared to see them. I think there is a market in the USA for 1492: Conquest Of Paradise on DVD, Blu-ray it might not be huge but at the right price people would buy it because it's a Ridley Scott directed film. The other Columbus film The Discovery would be a tough sell for Warner to release on DVD, Blu-ray unless it's on demand, some might buy it to see if it's really that bad but I don't see it ever being released in the USA by itself, maybe in one of those budget Warner DVD 4 film adventure pack sets or something. Still both Columbus films should be released in the USA on DVD, Blu-ray, alot of films that tanked at the box office get released on DVD, Blu-ray all the time. The fact that 1492 was never released on DVD in the USA is mind boggling really I just don't understand why, Paramount several years ago was releasing several catalog DVD's, and some of those films were box office duds.
    I do hope that Concorde in Germany doesn't port over the France Blu-ray HD video transfer for that release, I hope it's something new. As for the history involved I just really like the film, but I do realize like most Hollywood historical epics some of the history isn't accurate in spots, it's dramatized.
     
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    I have the French edition, plays fine on a multi region Oppo blu ray player, image wise it is very good, so it's 1080i and not 23.976fps, usually that would bother me but that isn't a huge issue for me this time as i just want to own this film on blu ray and they didn't overdo the DNR or edge enhancement with this one, there are some line issues onscreen affecting parts of the image at some points throughout the movie though, but i can live with them, it's a shame it's not the longer Japanese cut of the film.

    Some of you dislike screencaps but here is a comparison between the dvd edition and the French edition.


    http://caps-a-holic.com/hd_vergleiche/comparison.php?cID=1024#auswahl
     
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    There really is no comparison except the colors are about the same, image wise the Blu-ray just blows it away in detail. Interestingly the Aussie DVD actually ports over the German video transfer, it's obvious when the films starts the title is in German, so I hope this doesn't happen the other way around on Blu-ray when the German Blu comes out, I hope it's not the France Blu ported over, not that it looks bad but a 1080p transfer would be nice. There is no longer Japanese cut to my knowledge, there is just the international cut and the USA theatrical cut and the France Blu-ray is the international cut.
     
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    I was actually hoping that the USA would get a Ridley Scott approved blu ray transfer this year with both cuts of the film included and i would buy that one, shame since it is the twentieth anniversary, is it Paramount for the USA. ?
     
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    I think Ridley Scott is just to damn busy to do an approved Blu-ray transfer for this film. I do believe but don't know for sure that Paramount still has the USA rights to release a DVD, Blu of the film but it's not certain, there could be a rights issue in USA with the international coproduction. If they didn't though I am pretty sure it would have come out on DVD at least by now in the USA, so I am guessing it's Paramount that is sitting on the title. It is a shame there is no 20th anniversary edition in the works, but Scott has 5 years to do something with this film like the rumored directors cut for it's 25th anniversary. The German Blu-ray may or may not be a 20th anniversary edition, not alot is know about it yet other than it being region free and being released through Concorde. It is very disappointing though that this has never seen a DVD, Blu release in the USA.
     
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    A poster on Blu-ray-disc.de named Ghost Rider posted this bit of info in an e-mail recieved from Concorde, this may be a bad translation from German to English:
    So apparently they are using the France HD master for this release but it says they are tinkering with it, maybe enhancing things. I will still get it but I was hoping for a new HD master. Of course if anyone can translate it properly maybe the translation isn't accurate, maybe it is a new HD master.
     
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    I have picked up the German edition, its superior to the French edition, less grain removal ( although not perfect - due to using same master ) and proper 23.976fps, on a projection setup it looks more film like.
     

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