A Few Words About A few words about...™ Jaws -- in Blu-ray (1 Viewer)

Will the lossy mono sound as it did in the theater, or would there have been a gain by presenting it lossless?

 

[Robert Harris]

Originally Posted by eric scott richard /t/322696/a-few-words-about-jaws-in-blu-ray/60#post_3957412
Will the lossy mono sound as it did in the theater, or would there have been a gain by presenting it lossless?

Theatrical monaural audio was optical, and far from lossless.

Would you be able to tell the difference is the question. And the answer is "doubtful." Not for just you, but for everyone.

RAH

 

[FoxyMulder]

Originally Posted by Robert Harris /t/322696/a-few-words-about-jaws-in-blu-ray/60#post_3957390
No. DIs are modified in every way imaginable.

RAH

A final question, what did the studio heads and director view back in the day before digital intermediates when watching the finished article and before the public got to see the film in a cinema, by that i mean how far removed from the OCN did they view the film. ?

 

[Robert Harris]

Originally Posted by FoxyMulder /t/322696/a-few-words-about-jaws-in-blu-ray/60#post_3957423

A final question, what did the studio heads and director view back in the day before digital intermediates when watching the finished article and before the public got to see the film in a cinema, by that i mean how far removed from the OCN did they view the film. ?

A print from the camera original, even if eventually printed dye transfer. Premiere prints were also generally from the OCN.

For three-strip, dailies were virtually all black & white from the magenta negative, with an occasional dye transfer shot or two for reference.

RAH

 

[Mark Oates]

A print from the camera original, even if eventually printed dye transfer.  Premiere prints were also generally from the OCN.
For three-strip, dailies were virtually all black & white from the magenta negative, with an occasional dye transfer shot or two for reference.
RAH

Hope you'll excuse me having a penny-dropping moment - dailies from the magenta negative because that's the one carrying the maximum image information (the green wavelength). Right?

 

[Robert Harris]

Hope you'll excuse me having a penny-dropping moment - dailies from the magenta negative because that's the one carrying the maximum image information (the green wavelength). Right?

Precisely. The same negative that would be used for black & white re-issues, as well as early tv prints.

 

[alter filmnarr]

Which is precisely how your post was taken.  Read you perfectly.
RAH

I did not trust my English

 

[alter filmnarr]

Thanks for making this post and for including me in it.

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[Kevin EK]

Just finished watching the Blu. It's a great one. My review will go up this weekend.

I watched about 35 minutes of The Shark is Still Working. It is indeed windowboxed.

And I misspoke in an earlier post. I mentioned "Ben Kingsbury". Not quite. I meant "Craig Kingsbury who played the part of Ben Gardner". As Carl Gottlieb has noted, Kingsbury holds a distinction for getting a DUI while driving a team of oxen.

 

[NY2LA]

I watched about 35 minutes of The Shark is Still Working.  It is indeed windowboxed.

Awww, jeez. There is that old saying that anything worth doing is worth doing right. Why buy this doc that people worked so hard on, then present it so shabbily? Why not use a second disc? I suspect there may be some ego involved - this doc was made outside of the studio and arguably better than theirs, so they made it look bad. When the original elements were available there is no reason to shrink it. I saw it on a large theatre screen and that looked fine, so full width letterbox should not have been a problem. Sad.

 

[Johnny Angell]

Just finished watching the Blu.  It's a great one.  My review will go up this weekend.
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I watched about 35 minutes of The Shark is Still Working.  It is indeed windowboxed.
And I misspoke in an earlier post.  I mentioned "Ben Kingsbury".  Not quite.  I meant "Craig Kingsbury who played the part of Ben Gardner".   As Carl Gottlieb has noted, Kingsbury holds a distinction for getting a DUI while driving a team of oxen.

Ben Gardner is the fisherman who is floating in the hull of his boat when Hooper discovers him. Do we see him earlier in the movie?

 

[Kevin EK]

Ben Gardner is the loudmouthed fisherman who makes some colorful comments about all the yahoos in the water during the big amateur shark hunt: "Wait til we get them silly bastards down in that rock pile - it'll be some fun. They'll wish their fathers had never met their mothers when they start taking their bottoms out and slamming into them rocks, boy!"

According to Spielberg and Gottlieb, Kingsbury was full of quotes like that, which were usually given to Quint to say onscreen.

 

[TravisR]

^ It took me years to realize that that the "fathers never met their mothers" fisherman was the same guy that Hooper discovers. Granted, I was a little kid at the time but that prostethic head isn't the best match.

 

[dpippel]

Originally Posted by Kevin EK /t/322696/a-few-words-about-jaws-in-blu-ray/60#post_3957567
Just finished watching the Blu. It's a great one. My review will go up this weekend.

I watched about 35 minutes of The Shark is Still Working. It is indeed windowboxed.

In other words, they jumped the shark on The Shark is Still Working.

 

[FoxyMulder]

Originally Posted by Robert Harris /t/322696/a-few-words-about-jaws-in-blu-ray/60#post_3957435
Premiere prints were also generally from the OCN.

RAH

Would you say Jaws on Blu ray looks like a premiere print then as i imagine that is a good deal better than the average cinema print that most viewers got to see. ?

 

[Sam Posten]

Thanks for your great comments Mr. Harris.
As always your recommendation is worth its weight in gold. But I have to say that it was actually seeing some screenshots of this transfer that truly blew me away. Justin over at HDDN put some up that really really shocked me with their clarity.
http://www.highdefdiscnews.com/?p=87073

 

[Johnny Angell]

^ It took me years to realize that that the "fathers never met their mothers" fisherman was the same guy that Hooper discovers. Granted, I was a little kid at the time but that prostethic head isn't the best match.

That's exactly why I wasnt sure they were the same character. Good to have that cleared up.

 

[Sam Posten]

Would you say Jaws on Blu ray looks like a premiere print then as i imagine that is a good deal better than the average cinema print that most viewers got to see. ?

In the video posted at HDDN Spielberg says the Bluray looks better than any elements he himself ever got to handle.

 

[Ransom Stoddard]

In the video posted at HDDN Spielberg says the Bluray looks better than any elements he himself ever got to handle.

Not to question Spielberg, but he's hardly going to say "it looks alright". He's out to sell a product and is not going to be the most objective POV at this point in time.

 

[Nailwraps]

DVDBevaer review!:
http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film/dvdcompare6/jaws.htm