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oh i've felt it before... that's why i want to get it. it was either that or getting transducer-type stuff.... which i dunno... there is a line of how much you want to spend and i dunno if i'm quite there yet in terms of crossing that line hahaha. cause that's basically like d-box, i dont even...

oh absolutely. when i bought my sub in 2003-ish. i had never owned one prior to that and until you have ANY subs you don't realize you can't even hear the 'presence' or the ground floor room acoustics layer that sound engineers place on great recordings or even great film soundtracks. so i was...

yeah dude. the used gear at this point has probably gone through several hands and my local guy is just another flipper who probably got this from estate sales or something who knows what the history is. but yes it aint worth shipping subs the cost is way too high but even locally if it’s tough...

it's still fascinating to see how many mfr in the industry inflated their specs then & now. not much as changed lolz

yep same thinking. like if this seller has a tough time selling then i will as well. hate getting stuck older gear i cant offload. i bought a b&w speakers previously trying to flip em but now i’m stuck w/them. it aint always easy

twas 18” but imma keep waitin. cause the seller has a tough time selling and i just dont wanna be stuck with another component in my basement i cant get rid of

but i do know. i’ve heard enough of the current stuff vs older subs 🤣

i want my dental implant and my fillings to explode and the sound pressure make me throw up my breakfast 🤣🤣🤣 but i will settle for under 20hz performance. currently my cht12 dies somewhere south of 40-60hz

my personal situation i'm good with either. i was more curious about if $250 will "get me there"... why am i spending $2k right? but dammit it sounds like $2k is going to blow the shit out of nearly 25yrs of tech then hell yeah it's still worth saving up for. so i'll continue to save up and get...

thank you carlo! gotta keep that $ and keep saving! it’s just so hard to get to $2k 🤣👍

i guess i’m comparing it against my current cht12 anything is better maybe i’m just gettin desperate

which one do you have now? oh i been here lurker for a while :). while thats all true at some point you cant escape basic physics right? the real question has sub tech evolved that much that a modern one will sound twice as good? ps i will test sub before i take it home. thus far the...

my basement space: 16' x 13' x 7' open unfinished basement no carpeting not even drywall, straight concrete with some wood framing all around. currently i've got velodyne cht12 i've got an opportunity to buy a def. tec. pf1800 for $250 and assuming it actually works, that's a pretty nice deal...