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  1. joshEH

    Paramount+ Star Trek: Discovery - Official Thread

    I doubt it. Remember that it's been established on the show that the Prime Universe and the Mirror Universe finally temporally diverged far enough apart circa the 27th Century that it's now impossible to cross over (and which nearly killed Mirror Georgiou before she used the Guardian of Forever...
  2. joshEH

    Paramount+ Star Trek: Discovery - Official Thread

    ...Oh, Jesus Christ on a fucking pony.
  3. joshEH

    Paramount+ Star Trek: Discovery - Official Thread

    New article at Variety gives some pretty major spoilers regarding the Star Trek: Section 31 movie (starring Michelle Yeoh): https://variety.com/2024/tv/features/star-trek-future-starfleet-academy-section-31-michelle-yeoh-1235952301/
  4. joshEH

    Paramount+ Star Trek: Discovery - Official Thread

    That was I was referring to with my "[from] a real-world production POV"-disclaimer, there. But don't forget about Capt. Erika Hernandez on ENT, commander of the Columbia NX-02 -- that show's set before everything else Trek. Also, again, there's no way in heck Starfleet ever would've banned...
  5. joshEH

    Paramount+ Star Trek: Discovery - Official Thread

    Actually, it was Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home which gave us actress Madge Sinclair as our very first onscreen female starship-captain (from a real-world production POV): And that line in the TOS series-finale was a bad idea resulting from a 1960s mindset. "Turnabout Intruder" was a mistake...
  6. joshEH

    Paramount+ Star Trek: Discovery - Official Thread

    ^ Correct. Indeed, it's almost hard to believe that TOS, where the Enterprise encountered advanced androids at least once a season, and there were plenty of examples of the technology to study ("What Are Little Girls Made Of?," "I, Mudd," "Requiem for Methuselah," etc.), is the same world as...
  7. joshEH

    Paramount+ Star Trek: Discovery - Official Thread

    It bugs me too, but there have always been comparably-large continuity problems within Star Trek. For instance, one more example that just occurred to me on top of all the others that have been discussed in this thread -- in TOS episodes like "Wolf in the Fold," they used a computerized sensor...
  8. joshEH

    Paramount+ Star Trek: Discovery - Official Thread

    Remember though that Gene Roddenberry always said at conventions that he would've retroactively updated the look of TOS to even more futuristic specifications if he'd had the money to do so (which he finally did in Star Trek: The Motion Picture). Think of it like different productions of...
  9. joshEH

    Paramount+ Star Trek: Discovery - Official Thread

    But Star Trek is not a period piece in that sense. The 23rd Century wasn't meant to look like the 1960s; it just looked that way because they were limited by the resources and perspective of their time. What they depicted was just the closest approximation they could manage of the 23rd Century...
  10. joshEH

    Paramount+ Star Trek: Discovery - Official Thread

    To be sure, they're not "extra credit" -- they're every bit as canonical and important to the franchise as the full-length, hourlong TV episodes and theatrical films. The DSC producers have confirmed that they're building up to the events of "Calypso" during these past three seasons. Definitely...
  11. joshEH

    Paramount+ Star Trek: Discovery - Official Thread

    Er…guessing you haven’t watched the “Calypso” Short Trek episode, then? Because the ship/Zora working through its feelings right now was pretty much first set up like four years ago. This isn’t something from completely out of the blue, here. Also, the crew just made first contact with a vast...
  12. joshEH

    Paramount+ Star Trek: Discovery - Official Thread

    Really? What stopped being "Star Trek" to you this season? Was it the crew of the starship Discovery figuring out how to communicate with nearly-unfathomable cosmic entities solely from first principles, including mathematics and learning how to compensate for their entirely different evolution...
  13. joshEH

    Paramount+ Star Trek: Discovery - Official Thread

    Nobody's even mentioned this one yet: We just found out that "Cleveland Booker" is a title that is passed on from Courier to Courier, and Book is the fifth one to have the name. Yes, Book is the Dread Pirate Roberts! (It's now very important to me that we find out that his birth-name is...
  14. joshEH

    Paramount+ Star Trek: Discovery - Official Thread

    The Galactic Barrier first appeared all the way back in the 1965 second TOS pilot-episode, "Where No Man Has Gone Before" (where the Enterprise attempts to penetrate the barrier, but fails), and subsequently appeared in TOS episodes "By Any Other Name" and "Is There in Truth No Beauty?", where...
  15. joshEH

    Paramount+ Star Trek: Discovery - Official Thread

    Just rewatched this one, and it suddenly hits me that I think we've just had our first Lower Decks-reference on Discovery, with the replicators making steamed bananas. ("Banana, hot. Banana, hot. Banana, hot.")
  16. joshEH

    Paramount+ Star Trek: Discovery - Official Thread

    Overall this was a really good episode, but I was really hoping we could just sweep the whole idiocy of the galactic barrier under the rug. When Samuel A. Peeples wrote "Where No Man Has Gone Before," we didn't really know what was at the edge of the galaxy; we had no way to see that far. The...
  17. joshEH

    Paramount+ Star Trek: Discovery - Official Thread

    We knew Tarka would do the batshit-crazy thing to get us to our upcoming season finale, but kudos to the writers for how it was done. While it was predictable, it was predictable in the good sense that we all want our characters to succeed, not in the bad sense of, "just get on with it already."...
  18. joshEH

    Paramount+ Star Trek: Discovery - Official Thread

    …LOLWTF, wow, dude. That’s…certainly one type of opinion, I guess, considering a whole bunch of far worse TOS and VOY episodes that exist which far outnumber the mere 10 Picard episodes currently available, but, OK, if you say so. :lol: :rolling-smiley::thumbs-up-smiley:
  19. joshEH

    Paramount+ Star Trek: Discovery - Official Thread

    Although, given the sheer hugeness of the galaxy, the odds that the place where Book went to get isolynium just happens to be close to the part of the galaxy that can get a good scan of Species 10-C's home blob are absolutely infinitesimal. Also…the element needed to make isolytic weapons is...
  20. joshEH

    Paramount+ Star Trek: Discovery - Official Thread

    The first issue of the upcoming Star Trek: Discovery -- Adventures in the 32nd Century comic miniseries next month is also going to be Grudge-centric (and written by TV producer/Star Trek: Picard co-creator Kirsten Beyer)...
  21. joshEH

    Paramount+ Star Trek: Discovery - Official Thread

    “Juvenile plots”? Man…a great deal of the stuff involving Gwyn and her father gets absolutely brutal even by Nickelodeon-standards. Are we watching the same show? And the voice-acting by the cast is perfectly fine — very professional and competent. You have to keep in mind that these characters...
  22. joshEH

    Paramount+ Star Trek: Discovery - Official Thread

    Just read on another Trek-site that Chris Pine's been in a real life long-term relationship with Star Trek: Discovery's very own Annabelle Wallis for a while now, which is an interesting little connection. Wonder if he watches the show?
  23. joshEH

    Paramount+ Star Trek: Discovery - Official Thread

    Interesting that we got mentions of the Metrons and the Nacene, and particularly the revelation that the Iconians aren't extinct (which ties into the novels). But there are so many other advanced races that weren't mentioned, like the Organians and the Douwd. Also no mention of the Borg. On the...
  24. joshEH

    Paramount+ Star Trek: Discovery - Official Thread

    Got a chuckle when Tilly basically got a “Professor Cligoris”-moment in this episode, too:
  25. joshEH

    Paramount+ Star Trek: Discovery - Official Thread

    Yup -- the fourth season was basically the precursor/setup to the Earth-Romulan War described in TOS, and the last several episodes helped to lay this groundwork even though the producers knew they were getting cancelled
  26. joshEH

    Paramount+ Star Trek: Discovery - Official Thread

    He's basically the biggest key figure involved in the entire founding of the Federation itself, so naturally he'd be pretty revered. In the ST universe, Archer is considered to be on about the same level as the Founding Fathers are here in the United States; a spacedock-naming is probably the...
  27. joshEH

    Paramount+ Star Trek: Discovery - Official Thread

    Considering that this show has boasted high-caliber writers like Kemp Powers (Best Screenplay Oscar-nominee and playwright), Anne Coffell Saunders (Battlestar Galactica), and Jenny Lumet (Rachel Getting Married) on its production-staff…I'm not quite sure this is actually a valid criticism?
  28. joshEH

    Paramount+ Star Trek: Discovery - Official Thread

    ^ Jason_V, you basically just nailed everything I was about to say, there, myself.
  29. joshEH

    Paramount+ Star Trek: Discovery - Official Thread

    This would actually be consistent with the TOS movies, where we see both Spock and Scotty serving aboard the Enterprise under Kirk (NCC-1701-A), yet all three held the rank of Captain. It's undoubtedly a military-billeting situation, where two officers might have the same exact rank, but one of...
  30. joshEH

    Paramount+ Star Trek: Discovery - Official Thread

    Nope -- it's definitely an entirely-new makeup-redesign: If you tried this back in the Berman-era, you'd be smashed literally before you even made it out of the second episode of VOY.
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