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  1. jcroy

    Warner DVD's not working thread - watch to make sure they still play

    I gather these are the individual season 6 and 7 sets manufactured before 2010 ? My copy of the West Wing is a complete series set in a special "briefcase" packaging, which I purchased around a decade ago. These discs were all IFPI KK** (ie. Technicolor Mexico), where each disc was labeled...
  2. jcroy

    Warner DVD's not working thread - watch to make sure they still play

    It appears each of Technicolor's disc pressing plants, were all run independently of one another. The IFPI 2U** plant (in Olyphant, Pennsylvania) which was pumping out all those defective cd and dvd discs, no longer exists. A lot of equipment from the Olyphant plant was auctioned off in...
  3. jcroy

    Warner DVD's not working thread - watch to make sure they still play

    (On a more general tangent, as a long offtopic rant). The Technicolor (formerly Cinram) plant at Olyphant, PA with IFPI 2U** mould code, was also pumping out crappy audio cd discs. Not just Warner mid->late 2000s era dvds. There is a list of just about every audio cd disc manufactured with...
  4. jcroy

    Warner DVD's not working thread - watch to make sure they still play

    From looking at ebay photos of this set showing the silver sides of the discs, it appears the discs were manufactured at the now-defunct Cinram Olyphant, PA plant (IFPI 2U**) which was the source of many problematic Warner discs over the mid-late 2000s...
  5. jcroy

    Warner DVD's not working thread - watch to make sure they still play

    I was hoping for an NYPD Blue complete series set with the possibility of Shout Factory redoing seasons 3 and 4 as single-sided discs sets. (ie. Similar to what ShoutFactory did for Hill Street Blues, where the first two seasons were originally released by Fox as dvd14 double-sided flipper...
  6. jcroy

    Warner DVD's not working thread - watch to make sure they still play

    Similar sentiments here too. Though I don't bother going the dvd-mod route. I'll either wait for something to show up on a basic cable channel, or if it released as a Criterion type of release. If neither of these happen, I can live without it.
  7. jcroy

    Warner DVD's not working thread - watch to make sure they still play

    20th Century Fox was was also a long time client of Cinram's Toronto plant to the very day it closed down in 2014. https://www.thestar.com/business/2014/07/25/cinram_moves_production_out_of_toronto.html
  8. jcroy

    Warner DVD's not working thread - watch to make sure they still play

    Double-sided flipper discs were always a technical nightmare, regardless of who manufactured it.
  9. jcroy

    Warner DVD's not working thread - watch to make sure they still play

    (In a similar manner). Sometimes when I'm really bored, I'll take out a batch of semi-random dvd discs from my collection and rip them on the computer to see if there are any reading problems.
  10. jcroy

    Warner DVD's not working thread - watch to make sure they still play

    Is this the double-sided flipper disc version?
  11. jcroy

    Warner DVD's not working thread - watch to make sure they still play

    A lot of Fox released dvds were also manufactured at Cinram's plant in Toronto (ifpi 60**). So far I haven't had any Fox and Warner dvd titles with ifpi 60** going bad (yet).
  12. jcroy

    Warner DVD's not working thread - watch to make sure they still play

    I wasn't really shopping for dvds in those days. (I only started buying a lot of dvds in 2011). Though from looking at photos online and from what I can remember, it sounds like your copy was the general wide release. IIRC there was also 2-disc version, which I found years later at a dollar...
  13. jcroy

    Warner DVD's not working thread - watch to make sure they still play

    The random weirdness between different standaone dvd (or bluray) players, and even different computer dvd drives, is what makes dvd playback very frustrating to deal with. I've had dvd discs which play fine on one computer drive, but is problematic on a different computer dvd drive from a...
  14. jcroy

    Warner DVD's not working thread - watch to make sure they still play

    I don't know which version you have. I had the dvd version which came in a grey plastic briefcase, with some additional toy trinkets. Recently I checked the discs on the computer, where there were no problems showing up at all. In contrast, what was completely different was I played the...
  15. jcroy

    Warner DVD's not working thread - watch to make sure they still play

    If there are problems around the layer-change, the copying process will choke. Dvd Decrypter will attempt to re-read the sectors, until either it gives up or you stop the copying process manually.
  16. jcroy

    Warner DVD's not working thread - watch to make sure they still play

    The easiest quick-and-dirty way of checking if there's problems around the layer-change of a dvd disc, is to just copy the *.vob file which overlaps the layer-change region sectors using a program like Dvd Decrypter. It only takes 15-20 seconds or so to do this, once you know which *.vob file...
  17. jcroy

    Warner DVD's not working thread - watch to make sure they still play

    A computer dvd drive is a more appropriate tool for doing a systematic sequential checking of sectors on a dvd disc, than a standalone dvd/bluray player. The former seems to be designed for "punishment" of that type.
  18. jcroy

    Warner DVD's not working thread - watch to make sure they still play

    This happened around a decade ago. IIRC, criterion did a recall program for most of the affected discs around that time. These were bluray discs manufactured by Sonopress. This particular disc manufacturing facility in North Carolina closed down already and is no longer in operation (since...
  19. jcroy

    Warner DVD's not working thread - watch to make sure they still play

    From what I was able figure out about vsoinspector, it counts how many reads or re-reads it has to perform on a sector. Basically the visual picture is a tally of how many read error messages it gets for each sector it reads/re-reads.
  20. jcroy

    Warner DVD's not working thread - watch to make sure they still play

    If you have the patience to extract the entire dvd or bluray disc's iso, one can use a ripping program. Such programs essentially reads every sector sequentially on a disc and dumps all the data into a separate file. I still use the old Dvd Decrypter for checking dvd discs. (It has not been...
  21. jcroy

    Warner DVD's not working thread - watch to make sure they still play

    This goes to show that every manufacturer had their own dvd player/drive design, which differs slightly from one another. The original dvd design, doesn't appear to have a definitive spec for how to exactly read a dvd disc.
  22. jcroy

    Warner DVD's not working thread - watch to make sure they still play

    Me ! ! ! I keep such old defective discs around, largely to use as "torture tests" on computer dvd-drives. :)
  23. jcroy

    Warner DVD's not working thread - watch to make sure they still play

    (On another offtopic aside). Promises are not legally binding, if there is no official agreement signed. :popcorn:
  24. jcroy

    Warner DVD's not working thread - watch to make sure they still play

    (On an offtopic aside). Some individuals are habitual complainers, where they legitimately enjoy it to the max and is entirely a part of of their personal identity. :) For me, such behavior is a guilty pleasure on my part whenever I choose to indulge in it. :rock:
  25. jcroy

    Warner DVD's not working thread - watch to make sure they still play

    If one doesn't like how things are handled by Warner, one can simply just walk away and NEVER buy anything else again made by Warner. If one wants to hire an ambulance chaser for dealing with defective Warner dvd/bluray discs, at most the settlement will be just be getting a refund and signing...
  26. jcroy

    Warner DVD's not working thread - watch to make sure they still play

    If I had to guess, this Wea/Cinram disc manufacturing plant in Commerce, California was probably shut down during the great recession of the late 2000s.
  27. jcroy

    Warner DVD's not working thread - watch to make sure they still play

    IFPI 2V** appears to be an old WEA/Cinram plant in Commerce, California. Not much information online about this cd/dvd disc manufacturing plant. It appears to have disappeared sometime in the mid-late 2000s. For example on discogs, not many listings show up after 2005-6...
  28. jcroy

    Warner DVD's not working thread - watch to make sure they still play

    Cinram probably bought them up more than a decade ago. Also a lot of cd/dvd disc manufacturing plants closed down back during the great recession of 2008->2010.
  29. jcroy

    Warner DVD's not working thread - watch to make sure they still play

    The former Cinram had three plants in north america I'm aware of that manufactured a lot of dvds/blurays. IFPI mould code 2U** = Olyphant Pennsylvania IFPI mould code 60** = Toronto Canada IFPI mould code 2F** = Huntsville Alabama IIRC, the Hunstville plant might still be open which is now...
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