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  1. jayembee

    Stinkers By Great Directors

    Friends and I used to say about some movies, "Well, it was pretty good except for that one part in the middle between the opening and closing credits." (For the record, I haven't seen either of the LR movies under discussion. Or even the ones from the 50s, though I did watch some episodes of...
  2. jayembee

    Stinkers By Great Directors

    On the original Artisan DVD set of Twin Peaks: Season 1 there are features not carried over to any later home video editions of the show, including a bunch of short talks with several of the cast members (about their careers, as well as Twin Peaks). Michael Horse talks about getting a call from...
  3. jayembee

    Stinkers By Great Directors

    And for me, especially The Secret of Roan Inish.
  4. jayembee

    Stinkers By Great Directors

    You caught me. The earliest film of his I've seen was Flesh+Blood. I usually apply the caveat of "that I have seen", but didn't this time. My bad. Maybe he's better in his native Dutch, but I confess that based on his American films, I've no great desire to watch his pre-American ones. I'm glad...
  5. jayembee

    Stinkers By Great Directors

    Carrie is the only DePalma film I've liked without caveats. The one caveat:) is that it's been a long time since I've last watched it, and my reluctance to see it again lies mostly in my fear that I would realize it isn't as good as I thought it was. There are other films of his that I like...
  6. jayembee

    Stinkers By Great Directors

    On the other hand, the only Burton film I liked was Big Fish.
  7. jayembee

    Stinkers By Great Directors

    That would be the one I consider a stinker, it being the only one of his films I actively disliked (I've still never seen Piranha II).
  8. jayembee

    Stinkers By Great Directors

    George Miller, yes. Peter Weir, definitely yes. The one I'd nominate would be John Sayles, with the caveat that I haven't seen any of his films since Casa de los babys. Some of his films don't work as well as others, but I wouldn't consider any of them "bad".
  9. jayembee

    Stinkers By Great Directors

    No idea, but I actually agree with you. I've only seen 1941 once, and it's not something I feel compelled to re-watch, but I think it's an underrated early Spielberg film. I'd rather have my kidneys harvested than watch E.T. again.
  10. jayembee

    Stinkers By Great Directors

    You lost me with that last sentence. But before that, I agree with you. It's the "guilty pleasure" thing. I think Independence Day is as dumb as dirt, but I love every dumb minute of it. The one time I caught Spice World on cable way back when, I surprised myself by actually enjoying it (though...
  11. jayembee

    Stinkers By Great Directors

    OK, so I was wrong. That said, the movies you list as "terrible", I've liked all with two exceptions because I haven't seen them (Gump and Ryan). And, yes, I really think both Ziegfeld and Way are good movies. Not great movies, but good movies. But that's what makes horse races.
  12. jayembee

    Stinkers By Great Directors

    While the original post wasn't specific about it, I (for one) came away from it thinking that he wanted to know what we thought were stinkers from great directors, without considering what general critic or moviegoer consensus was.
  13. jayembee

    Stinkers By Great Directors

    Different squids for different kids. I don't think there's a single film of Verhoeven's that I haven't thought was a stinker. Except maybe Robocop, which I lost a taste for after several re-viewings, but it has a lot of pluses.
  14. jayembee

    Stinkers By Great Directors

    Scorsese: I recognize that I'm in a minority on this, but there are too many movies of his I just don't care for. I think it's that I have more admiration than affection for his work. And at least three of his films I thought well of at first, but didn't think they held up on re-viewings...
  15. jayembee

    Stinkers By Great Directors

    Well, the problem is that the only way to know they've run out of steam is to let them make one bad movie late in their career. It's like realizing its time to take the keys away, but that can only happen after they've been in a car accident. Another example would be Richard Fleischer. Not that...
  16. jayembee

    Stinkers By Great Directors

    I dunno. I have no problem calling Harper Lee a "great novelist" even though she only published two novels.
  17. jayembee

    Stinkers By Great Directors

    I realize that I didn't respond to the original post. I think a number of people would rank Mary of Scotland as his worst. It's probably the least enjoyable film of his that I've seen, but I'm not sure I'd call it a stinker. If I had to put down money, I would probably bet that most people...
  18. jayembee

    Stinkers By Great Directors

    How many counter-examples would be needed to break the "general" part of that rule? James Whale (Frankenstein), Akira Kurosawa (Sanjuro), Francis Ford Coppola (Godfather), and George Miller (Mad Max) come directly to mind as exceptions. Though I suppose in that last case, the first one wasn't a...
  19. jayembee

    Stinkers By Great Directors

    Those, and Jamaica Inn. Like with Kubrick, I think Hitch's weakest films are disappointments rather than stinkers.
  20. jayembee

    Stinkers By Great Directors

    I think Kubrick's worst film is Fear and Desire, and even that I don't think is all that bad. And it was his first. There are a couple of other films of his that I think of as disappointments rather than stinkers: Lolita and The Shining. I don't mind that he made changes from the books (I think...
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