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  1. haineshisway

    A Few Words About A few words about...™ West Side Story -- in Blu-ray

    Read back in the thread. I was the guinea pig/idiot who bought that and no it's the same old, same old and does NOT look good. Unless it's been updated in the past five months or whenever I took the chance.
  2. haineshisway

    A Few Words About A few words about...™ West Side Story -- in Blu-ray

    Of course, I can't find them now :) There in some folder and I can't remember what it's labeled and it's probably on one of my back-up drives anyway. It lists all the dissolves and where they happen, etc. I got them because when the Blu first came out there were people who were saying that...
  3. haineshisway

    A Few Words About A few words about...™ West Side Story -- in Blu-ray

    Perhaps you can share it with everyone? Because the only "corrected" version I've seen has a dissolve rather than a fade and it shows the one or two frames of incorrect green color. THAT is what's on the "corrected" Blu-ray, for our friend above who seems VERY confused.
  4. haineshisway

    A Few Words About A few words about...™ West Side Story -- in Blu-ray

    Okay, are you a comedian? That is NOT correct. There was NEVER EVER a fade to black. Please stop.
  5. haineshisway

    A Few Words About A few words about...™ West Side Story -- in Blu-ray

    I'm not sure you actually saw this film in theaters. I did, many, many times during its original release. The whistles occur pre-overture - from the extreme sides. Then there are whistles during the aerial shots post-overture.
  6. haineshisway

    A Few Words About A few words about...™ West Side Story -- in Blu-ray

    I have to admit I have no idea what you're going on about. I need a translator. I said, clearly, if memory serves the whistles are CORRECT on the 4.0 track - i.e. very directional. They are centered on the 7.1 track. I believe the 4.0 track is the 35mm stereo release track. But maybe I'm...
  7. haineshisway

    A Few Words About A few words about...™ West Side Story -- in Blu-ray

    They but a band-aid on the fade to black. That will tell you how OLD that transfer was - they faded to black because on the DVD transfer (the basis for the Blu-ray) at the spot it fades to black the old transfer went to some weird vomit green color which was never in this film EVER. So, to cover...
  8. haineshisway

    A Few Words About A few words about...™ West Side Story -- in Blu-ray

    I don't even understand this. You saw the screening and what? You can't tell anyone if it's the old transfer or a new transfer? And "they showed the scope version" - as opposed to what? It should have been in the 70mm aspect ratio - there is no other ratio for this film unless they were somehow...
  9. haineshisway

    A Few Words About A few words about...™ West Side Story -- in Blu-ray

    I have it on Blu-ray, hence it's a complete waste of money. It's an old transfer from before 2011. It looks okay and that's about it.
  10. haineshisway

    A Few Words About A few words about...™ West Side Story -- in Blu-ray

    Well, that was a waste of my time and money, although I'll put in for a refund. Same "fixed" copy, just in 4K. In other words, the dissolve from red to blue at the end isn't really a dissolve - it begins the fade to black of the original Blu-ray issue, then goes "green" for a second (which is...
  11. haineshisway

    A Few Words About A few words about...™ West Side Story -- in Blu-ray

    So, has not a single person rented or bought what is called a 4K UHD release on Prime? I'm almost willing to take the chance for 4.99.
  12. haineshisway

    A Few Words About A few words about...™ West Side Story -- in Blu-ray

    C'mon, you see approximately two seconds of anything, you don't see anyone actually singing as far as I remember from the myriad teasers they're shoving down everyone's throats every three minutes, and you see tiny little snippets of dance. I should hope that most would understand what West Side...
  13. haineshisway

    A Few Words About A few words about...™ West Side Story -- in Blu-ray

    The sound on this film was amazing back in the day, as was the image. As I've said many times, I was completely obsessed with the movie and went to the Chinese every Saturday matinee for fourteen weeks in a row - but also saw it on some summer weekdays and occasional evenings during that first...
  14. haineshisway

    A Few Words About A few words about...™ West Side Story -- in Blu-ray

    Whether one enjoys the uptick in detail that 4K gives or not, the real point is this is a decades' old transfer that should have been redone before it EVER went to Blu-ray or 4K. It's really that simple. It's never going to be optimal because with a transfer that old it can't be. It's why the...
  15. haineshisway

    A Few Words About A few words about...™ West Side Story -- in Blu-ray

    Yes, it still fades, just like before, and if you look really carefully at the end of the fade you'll see that the city lines are indeed visible but a shade of green - the green was a mistake in this years' old transfer done for DVD - there it was green for several seconds before going to blue...
  16. haineshisway

    A Few Words About A few words about...™ West Side Story -- in Blu-ray

    I'm willing to take the chance - but I click on the link, go to buy it, put in my Apple ID and then it says it's only available in the US and that it's switching me to that store, which it doesn't. I don't get it. Straightened out the issue with Apple. Watched the first forty minutes - I...
  17. haineshisway

    A Few Words About A few words about...™ West Side Story -- in Blu-ray

    That is NOT the fix that MGM did - they merely tried dissolving, but couldn't because the transfer they were using had a completely loopy fade to green - and there's a frame or two of that green in the fixed version, if memory serves, but if I'm misremembering, it still was not correct. And I...
  18. haineshisway

    A Few Words About A few words about...™ West Side Story -- in Blu-ray

    I saw this film in 70mm many, many times during its original run and the detail was INCREDIBLE. So, yes, if this had a proper transfer it would look a hundred times better.
  19. haineshisway

    A Few Words About A few words about...™ West Side Story -- in Blu-ray

    Then it's just the same old older scan and who needs that - certainly not this guy.
  20. haineshisway

    A Few Words About A few words about...™ West Side Story -- in Blu-ray

    Oh, iTunes. I need to know if the overture has been fixed - if not, it's just the same old transfer and I have no interest.
  21. haineshisway

    A Few Words About A few words about...™ West Side Story -- in Blu-ray

    Link, please, because whatever it is I took a look at four weeks ago was the exact same transfer as the Blu-ray, hence ancient, with the same overture mistake. Are you actually saying this is a new transfer? Are you saying the overture has been fixed?
  22. haineshisway

    A Few Words About A few words about...™ West Side Story -- in Blu-ray

    This is not the first production of West Side Story to use new dancing, and I believe the Spielberg will also feature new dancing, but perhaps with nods to Robbins. I doubt the Spielberg film will have the ballet, just as the Wise film didn't have the ballet. As to I Feel Pretty, it serves a...
  23. haineshisway

    A Few Words About A few words about...™ West Side Story -- in Blu-ray

    Anything can be 4K - do you not understand that? They clearly used their old master and upped it to 4K. Crap going in, crap going out - of course it looks like crap. You can also do crap in 8K 12K or 500K and it will always be crap. 4K is not some magic number and initial.
  24. haineshisway

    A Few Words About A few words about...™ West Side Story -- in Blu-ray

    The four-track sounds great as I recall. I remember that the 5.1 doesn't have the whistles pre-overture coming from all sides, which it absolutely did in the roadshow mix. I want that back. But if this news IS true, I can't imagine why anyone would think Criterion would ever do a release like...
  25. haineshisway

    A Few Words About A few words about...™ West Side Story -- in Blu-ray

    The replacement disc put a bandaid on the problem. The REAL problem was the incorrect green - it was never fixed and so to hide it they put in the fade to black. The replacement doesn't quite go to black but it's still fades out and in to the final color. It should seamlessly go from the red...
  26. haineshisway

    A Few Words About A few words about...™ West Side Story -- in Blu-ray

    No green, no fade, no black - EVER. There are forty something pages where that information is repeated ad nauseum.
  27. haineshisway

    A Few Words About A few words about...™ West Side Story -- in Blu-ray

    And there you have it in black-and-white :) The mambo color is supposed to be RED, and it dissolves into BLUE - dissolves and no green frames.
  28. haineshisway

    A Few Words About A few words about...™ West Side Story -- in Blu-ray

    More accurately I think you mean it's the way I type things. None of my comments were meant as curt, rude or anything like it and I'm sorry you read that into it. This thread has been going on for years and at this point in time everything that need be said about the overture to WSS has been...
  29. haineshisway

    A Few Words About A few words about...™ West Side Story -- in Blu-ray

    I'm not bent out of shape (not at my age) - you posted something and said it was accurate. It wasn't. This thread has been going on since the disc was released - if you don't want to read its contents, that is your choice, but don't be surprised when people correct you.
  30. haineshisway

    A Few Words About A few words about...™ West Side Story -- in Blu-ray

    Correct and there have been forty-four pages of posts here saying that. The GREEN frames were a mistake when this was transferred for DVD and I am convinced that the fade out/in was done to cover it up, rather than actually address the problem and redo it from scratch.
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