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Different terms get tossed around i.e. thin,harsh,bright,neutral etc. The 3805 just did not sound full. It was like there was not much punch to it. Keep in mind I owned the 3803 and it was similiar, thats why I upgraded to the Yamaha. Thats just my opinion. Everybody has one, not that mine is...

Looks like most people that replied give it up to the Denon. That being said I had a 3803, replaced it with the rxv2400 last year. I was recently looking for a new replacement. I tested the new RXV2500, Denon 3805 and the Pio. 54tx for over an hour with music and movies using Def Tech towers...