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  1. Robb Roy

    svs or hsu subwoofer?

    Steve, Enjoy the Maestro! If you have the time and money, there's no reason not to experiment. -Robb
  2. Robb Roy

    svs or hsu subwoofer?

    Assuming we're talking two subs having similar, and good objective measurements across the board, then definitely. Size, shape, material, etc. Sonically, they will be difficult to tell apart (psychoacoustics, however, can have a *very* powerful influence). -Robb
  3. Robb Roy

    svs or hsu subwoofer?

    Just a minor correction: the PB12-ISD is tuned to 22 Hz, making the difference between the two even smaller. -Robb
  4. Robb Roy

    svs or hsu subwoofer?

    Lyle_E, They are very close. The 20-39PCi will dig just a tad deeper than the PB12-ISD, but the PB12-ISD will have a bit more headroom in the upper bass frequencies. At least that's how they measure last I heard Ron compare them. I don't know all the reasons a sub winds up B stock, but I...
  5. Robb Roy

    svs or hsu subwoofer?

    Paul, Believe me, there is no way I would accuse you of being in the "objective data only" group of thinkers (if I wanted to "trap" you I'd ask if you agree both the SVS and Hsu subs mentioned as alternatives to the Klipsch would be superior, and why). As much as I take issue with what I see...
  6. Robb Roy

    svs or hsu subwoofer?

    Paul, You also stated in the Krix thread: If I misread either of these threads, I apologize for that as well. Objective data can tell you more about how a subwoofer sounds than someone's opinion, and is the smart place to start shopping when it comes to a subwoofer’s performance. -Robb
  7. Robb Roy

    svs or hsu subwoofer?

    I don't see where anyone said that. Personally, I've stated if you don't like a sub, no matter how it measures objectively, you shouldn't keep it. Jack has said there's any number of reasons why a sub may be your favorite. I *am* saying that since we can't possibly do side-by-side auditions of...
  8. Robb Roy

    svs or hsu subwoofer?

    As to narrowing things down based on recommendations, I couldn't agree more. You'll find the subs that measure the best often get recommended the most (like Hsu and SVS). I could swear I've said that before. As has been stated -- of course they don't sound the same -- they don't measure the...
  9. Robb Roy

    svs or hsu subwoofer?

    That's when you use the return policy and go from there. It's OK to have a preference for something with less than perfect measurements (as you point out -- nothing has perfect measurements) and no one would argue keeping a sub you don't like. You have to have a place to start, however, and...
  10. Robb Roy

    svs or hsu subwoofer?

    Paul, You're quite right that much of the data is misrepresented and/or poorly understood (some of it can be quite difficult to get your brain around). I'm not sure any of it is "superficial", but some will have more audible influence to the casual listener (FR and THD vs. GD, for instance)...
  11. Robb Roy

    svs or hsu subwoofer?

    Again, you're back to auditioning every last subwoofer on the planet, in every conceivable location, with every conceivable furniture placement. The consumer has to start somewhere, and odds are starting with the product with the best objective measurements (along with factoring in those...
  12. Robb Roy

    svs or hsu subwoofer?

    Craig, Thanks! I don't know if you've noticed, but I've been pretty quiet the last couple of months, especially when it comes to anything controversial. We started talking some time in December about how I might be able to help them with some projects. I'm not an SVS employee, but I can't...
  13. Robb Roy

    svs or hsu subwoofer?

    Paul, I’m going to open with admitting a bias toward SVS subwoofers. In fact, I’ve recently begun some contract work for them on various computer and programming-related projects, so I have a financial interest in their success (I’m not cheap and I want the checks to not bounce). I think...
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