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as much as i love the two x-men movies (and that is quite a bit!) i do have to agree that i also felt the 'Jeans sacrifce" angle felt a little contrived to wring much emotion from me. i realize that there is a little bit foreshadowing it (wigging out in the museum, the light in the eyes in the...

yeah. scale is relative. when i see vacuous characters running around, navigating thru a plot that doesn't grab me-nothing they do is going to be all that eye-popping incredible. if i had to choose, i would much prefer the action scaled back but utilizing characters i was invested...

i really don't think there is a monkey on the back of the franchise. its still building its fanbase vis a vis the films. i think in the case of X-men, a lot of parallels can be made to James Bond. That franchise didn't really take off an become a phenomenon until the third film...

i find that to be damn near as incomprehensible as anything in the matrix thread. really suprised to hear X2 was so busy. i ducked into a 12 o'clock showing on thurs and there was only 1 person in the whole theater.

:D thanks, Jon. i'll be heading down to NYC in a few weeks, and i'll be looking for 'em when i hit Midtown and The Time Machine.

i'm telling you Dan, releasing only 1/2 a movie at a time is the wave of the future. hop on the wave!

after seeing TMR on thurs, and letting it sink in, i now have to reasess how i first judged this movie. it definitely takes a nose-dove now, in my appreciation scale. :thumbsdown: the biggest failing of the film i think is that it mostly pays off its story, while leaving of tease of whats...

i'll be going back today also, this time using my movie-cash. i'm not going to trash TMR though. its not my cup o tea, but in some ways, i really envy the Matrix fans for 1) getting a cliffhanging sequel that pays off in 6 months and not 3 years 2) having the film be so dense with...

i see it as a little mutant house on the prarie type situation. the mutant kids come from all over, and are found at different stages. Xavier doesn't get them from birth and they don't enroll for kindergarten and stay for the rest. its more of a place for them to learn to deal with their...

ok...since i realize some of you weren't enchanted with the idea of a Dark Rogue i decided to concentrate my attentions on resolving the Jean Grey/DP storyline. i'll be posting my ideas for it in this thread here and if i have the chance, i'll try to work up some storyboards for it too...

Awesome News Jon! whenever you're ready i would love to see what your doing.

ok...if it were up to me, and i had orders to bring back Jean in the next movie here's how i'd do it- original source be damned- Jean is now 'evolved' into a 6th sensed organism. Xavier can sense her, but not really anyone else at this point. as the story progresses he can actually start to...

the whole part of the Phoenix saga that appealed to me, was seeing an otherwise good, innocent being, being given way too much power and seeing her become basically a slave to that power. it wasn't about seeing her fly up out of the water, or seeing her commit suicide on the moon. it was...

:D the administrator's a geek :D just like the rest of us ;)

i thought the raid on the school was perfectly logical from the 'raiders' stand point. from the trailers i was expecting a loud assault, with the soilders announcing themselves just short of playing selections from Wagner. instead they snuck in, in the middle of the night, wearing night vision...

Luis, your certainly entitled to your opinions. on first viewing, i didn't find much if anything in X2 to give me a problem as far as plot holes, or character inconsistencies go. maybe i will after a second look. i agree with you in regards to the set-up for DP. it would have made more...

Luis, i outgrew the comics long before you did, so character like Mr Sinister, Gambit, Juggernaut, etc just don't register with me. i like having super-character ratcheted down a little to being just a few degrees above human capability. one thing they used to get on me about at the Kubert...

the big problem with following thru with the DP storyline, is that 1) it's not going to be 'new' or satisfying in a way that first seeing something unexpected is. we will all know what's coming. 2) to bring Jean back from what looks to be death, should take some kind of toll on the...

How would you guys feel about Dark Rogue instead of Dark Phoenix? i was just thinking that in the comics, one of the reasons the Phoenix saga was so engrossing- and the same reason that the Gwen Stacy arc was so beloved in S-M, was that we had really gotten to know and live with these...

i'm pretty sure Matrix Reloaded is going to walk all over X2 as far as box office is concerned. i highly doubt it is going to be as satisfying in a number of areas (as follow-up, as stand-alone...etc). i'm sure the spfx will be spectacular, though, and much of its repeat audience isn't going...

in the same article Singer says how much affection he has for the material and the people he's been working with, and he fully expects to be involved in some capacity in the future films, but isn't sure he wants , or needs to , direct them. as much respect as i have for Singer, and thats quite...

the actual Chicago Sun-Times article that headline is from is a little less definitve as to Halles situation. it goes on to say that Halle isn't committed to the 3rd yet, and Singer doesn't know how they will be developing the Storm character. its just chatter at this point. i would really...

the first film had a lot of fantastical exposition to impart, and it had to do so in such a way that the audience wouldn't groan and think this is silly. using one of the characters as the audience surrogate, where we get introduced to this world along with them, was very smart. in this...

imo, Wolverine is finished as the 'main character/focus'. it's just not necc. to continue the "what about my past" element and time for his character to start going forward. of all the characters, with the possible exception of rouge, he's the only one that has had an 'arc'. as for the next...

just watched Ebert & Roeper give their tv review and both were positve, although the analysis they offered was remarkably shallow, with Roeper going on and on about the effects and action being good.

good post Buzz. although the gay sub-text of the bobby scene was fairly obvious from the trailers, but i confess it never really registered to me how affecting this would be to that sub group. my appreciation for the film has expanded over the weekend and i'm looking forward to a second viewing.

that's what i heard too Ryan, more than once during publicty for the first movie. wonder what happened. as far as Berry goes, yeah it would be great to have continuity of performers, but if she is going to be a prima dona-and exacerbate the difficulies of pre-production on the next one...

no. i would just hope that the creative people involved realize that there are probably many, many talented and striking black ladies that posess the authority and combination warmth/regal bearing that fits the part. and at this point they really don't need Berry's name recognition to insure...

since i know nobody wants to slog thru really dense posts, i'm breaking this up. i think-in possible addition to a DP storyline, they could weave it around a Days Of Future Past framework- although they may have to change it. the idea of Magneto being a positive team member is rendered a...

JonZ, sorry to hear you gave up art as a career, but i don't see a reason in pursuing something, if you don't think it is ultimately going to be fulfilling. artistic expression though, whatever it might be, i think is neccessary for quality of life, so it's good to know you still use it as an...